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My hands-on at fall conference
August 13, 2012
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Lynn Gledhill
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Hey Gene, I got your pm but somehow can't figure out how to add a photo. So, in my hands-on class which I think will happen Friday evening... I am thinking about having the students build a wall art hanging... Still not sure... Want to present traditional methods of joinery, but what is that??? I asked Daryl at his gate class... Could cover lot's of stuff!!!!:twins: So here's my idea...

The scrolls should be no problem if I have the stock cut to the proper length... The only trouble I foresee is if we use flat stock for the frame, the student must punch eight holes and drift them... Some folks have a really hard time punching one hole...( might see how good a teacher am I ). Otherwise, we use square stock and have them make 4 mortises and 4 tenons... I haven't done this before. However after being a part of Mark Aspery's demo a couple of years ago, I don't think it will be difficult. The student also has to make 6 collars.... Shouldn't be difficult if I have the metal pre-cut... All they have to do is taper them... I am still thinking about this... It would be a good study for someonw new to the sport. Thanks for your interest... Lynn

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August 14, 2012
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Lynn,
Thank you for the reply. Looks intresting and fun. Are you only doings the one demo?
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August 14, 2012
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Looks good lynn.

When I've done demos, it's real easy to get people in over their heads and it winds up being too much to handle in a short session. You may want to try to time yourself or how you may think a rank beginner would approach the project. A grill project in two hours may seem aggressive- just saying

See you in Sept. My hands on class is a pair of scissors~!

They only remember you when you SCREW UP~!!!

August 14, 2012
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I agree with Steve... When teaching it takes way longer than you think to get through a project.. Remember not only do you have to do it a bunch of other people who have never done it before have to... I think it would be a great project but I think you would have few if any leaving with a completed project in the time given. A grill or screen like that is doable but I would try to work up something with half as many parts and a bit less technical

Whatever you are, be a good one.
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August 14, 2012
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Steve H;16032 wrote: Looks good lynn.

When I've done demos, it's real easy to get people in over their heads and it winds up being too much to handle in a short session. You may want to try to time yourself or how you may think a rank beginner would approach the project. A grill project in two hours may seem aggressive- just saying

See you in Sept. My hands on class is a pair of scissors~!

Damn! I want to take your class!!!:playfull:

August 14, 2012
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Gene Bland;16031 wrote: Lynn,
Thank you for the reply. Looks intresting and fun. Are you only doings the one demo?
Later
Gene:bounce:

Yep, thissel be the only hands-on class that I teach...

August 14, 2012
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Steve H;16032 wrote: Looks good lynn.

When I've done demos, it's real easy to get people in over their heads and it winds up being too much to handle in a short session. You may want to try to time yourself or how you may think a rank beginner would approach the project. A grill project in two hours may seem aggressive- just saying

See you in Sept. My hands on class is a pair of scissors~!

Thought I had 3 hours!!!:furious::furious::furious:

But seriously, we won't be doing the parts in the middle of the scrolls... I have a girl coming over to my shop to road-test my ideas... She uses a hammer like a girl, in fact, one day I was watching her work and I said, "Dammit Krista, you are hitting like a girl!!!. She says, "Guess what, I am one." However, she is willing to try out my project... If she is able to get 'er done in 2 to 3 hours I say we're goin' with it... If not, I may have to re-think this whole thing...

Larry, Steve, gotney ideas???

August 14, 2012
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Lynn Gledhill;16040 wrote: Thought I had 3 hours!!!:furious::furious::furious:

But seriously, we won't be doing the parts in the middle of the scrolls... I have a girl coming over to my shop to road-test my ideas... She uses a hammer like a girl, in fact, one day I was watching her work and I said, "Dammit Krista, you are hitting like a girl!!!. She says, "Guess what, I am one." However, she is willing to try out my project... If she is able to get 'er done in 2 to 3 hours I say we're goin' with it... If not, I may have to re-think this whole thing...

Larry, Steve, gotney ideas???

Actually I think you have 4? but at least three.... But it will seem like its just an hour when your up there.... When you give it a go with your test subject make sure and work though it just like you will in class and see how it goes.... Maybe I am being to critical..

Whatever you are, be a good one.
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August 14, 2012
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lynn ,thanks for stepping up with an interesting project. Also, thanks for being pro-active with the Al Bart Grant.All hands-on participants work at various levels. dont worry,midnight madness is a good time to complete projects and refine skills.personally I support your project idea-------some smiths can always finish at home. Good Luck

August 14, 2012
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Larry L;16043 wrote: Actually I think you have 4? but at least three.... But it will seem like its just an hour when your up there.... When you give it a go with your test subject make sure and work though it just like you will in class and see how it goes.... Maybe I am being to critical..

Thanks, all of you for your input. Never taught a class at a conference before. However, I want to teach something interesting with skills that any smith should have, IMHO. Larry... I am really happy you are contributing to this site! You contribute so much of interest... For a bit I was worried, cause there was rarely anything of interest on the site. Let's keep 'er going!:playfull::playfull::playfull:

August 14, 2012
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Yeah, Lynn.

I don't want to sound like an 'Amer-I Can't!' It's your project, go for it!

Teaching is kinda fun, after awhile you get to see all types- the girls that hit like men and the men that hit like wussies. Coaching all of them through to completion can be a practice in patience.

I recently taught a challenged student from the Bellevue school district and was warned 'This kid has ADHD and get's angry, etc. etc..." Come to think of it, that sums up most people these days with an MTV attention span.

I kept each exercise short and to the point and had him follow immediately. The look of intensity and sweat on the kid's brow was heartening as was his focus. He indeed fared much better than I anticipated and better than even some of my more experienced students.

Too many people depite after being shown the simplest of steps will still step up to the anvil and make a mess of whatever it is you're trying to do. Throw in all sorts of distractions at a conference and the time will run out quickly.

For that reason, I plan on an hour or two of project based material and then an hour of clean-up & completion.
Personally- closure is a big deal for me. People want that finished product in their hands. Workshops where you take home a bucket of parts tend (in my experience) to not get put together with any sort of urgency.

They only remember you when you SCREW UP~!!!

August 14, 2012
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Lynn Gledhill;16045 wrote: Thanks, all of you for your input. Never taught a class at a conference before. However, I want to teach something interesting with skills that any smith should have, IMHO. Larry... I am really happy you are contributing to this site! You contribute so much of interest... For a bit I was worried, cause there was rarely anything of interest on the site. Let's keep 'er going!:playfull::playfull::playfull:

I haven't contributed much because I haven't been doing anything worth talking about.... But I hope that will change soon...

Thanks Lynn

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August 15, 2012
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Steve H;16047 wrote:
Personally- closure is a big deal for me. People want that finished product in their hands. Workshops where you take home a bucket of parts tend (in my experience) to not get put together with any sort of urgency.

LOL... Boy, howdy do I know that one... My garden gate class was 2 months ago and the gate still needs a latch and a hinge!!! :yellowcarded::yellowcarded:

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