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August 29, 2013
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Gene Bland
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While at the NWBA conference at MT Hood, I spent some time with Cori and Tammy Whitlock.  There were there with the Whitlox wood fired forge that Chuck Whitlok makes.

They have added a sweet little hand crank blower that is a dream to use and supplies plenty of blast.

My task was to prep and weld a bundle of 5/8 wire rope cable into a billet as one step to forming a blade edge for a composite blade I am working on.  I had previously cut the cable to 8 inches and welded the ends together.  Now it is ready to twist and then weld.

The pics kind of show the progress.  This pics were taken by an innocent passerby who was nice enough to give me copies.  Tammy has better pics which will post on their web site.

Well the pics exceed the size allowed.  When I figure this out I will post them.

 

August 29, 2013
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Bummer, you got me all excited.     So you actually welded in the wood fire?   I watched a bit but it never really seemed like it got hot enough to do any welding.  Hard to tell how hot it really was out there in the sun though.

Whatever you are, be a good one.
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August 30, 2013
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Gene,
try the upload again, I increased the size limit for uploads. If you have more trouble I will jump in and try to help as much as I can. I want to see those pics too. I will keep checking back to make sure you are able to upload.

August 31, 2013
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Larry,  The sun did not help.  I had to watch the flux to get it out in time.  Even then I may have singed some of the strands.  The fire has to be really deep.  I had to load the fire and wait for the charcoal to form.  Or add charcoal, which I did the second day.  I only welded it once.  It still need to be welded on the diamond and the round.  I am not unhappy with it so far.

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September 1, 2013
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I spent some time at the conference watching that Whitlox forge.

My thoughts:

It's a neat idea and a neat setup. Elegant in its simplicity, but therein lies the problem- I think a lot of smiths will look at it and say "I could build that." and they might, or they may pass it over and think about building one and never get around to it. I kind of wish they sold an inexpensive version in "kit" form, no kaowool, no firebrick, just the unassembled bent sheet metal and fittings.

It definitely gets hot enough with the wood they use. I don't know how hot it would get if you were using fresh\unseasoned wood though. At scout camp we have an almost limitless supply of deadfall and such, but a limited amount of what we've cut and put up to dry from season to season.

One disadvantage I noted, though not a serious one- with coal you can kind of shuffle & shake your metal to move it deeper in the fire. With wood, it doesn't move out of the way as easily as small coal chunks, so you have to fiddle a bit if you need to reposition the wood. There's a lot more airspace between the fuel though, so maybe it balances out.

It burns pretty clean, though it does produce ash. Much better than clinker though!

I think this would be a good setup for someone with a farm and a surplus of wood, or a situation like we have out at scout camp, where we have a limited budget to buy fuel, but a lot of wood available. I imagine that this setup would work well to throw some charcoal on instead of fresh wood, too.

September 16, 2013
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Gene, your pictures are great! Thanks for posting them. I've added some of the pictures from the conference to our website (http://whitloxhomestead.com/Pr.....llery.html), but we will be working on the video for a while. It was fun getting to help with the cable welding project too. I may get over my tool phobia yet!

Tracy, we've talked about a perhaps smaller kit version, and that may happen in the future. Honestly, I hope people do look at it and use the best elements of the design in their homemade forges and that the work put into it can benefit the blacksmithing community at large. We've considered selling the draft tube element alone so that people doing that could use the valve set up.

Our hope is that as you experienced NWBA members have a chance to see the wood-fired forge and mess with it, that you will feel fine about newbies wanting to go that route as they set up their shops. Your feedback on how to make the forge even better (or more marketable) is appreciated too!

Cori and Chuck and I had a great time at the conference, thank you all for making us feel welcome. Here is Cori's second wizard bottle opener, made on the wood-fired forge, after attending Mark Asprey's workshop:

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