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Repair needed for broken frying pan
January 11, 2015
4:33 am
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Admin posting on behalf of an inquiry to http://www.blacksmith.org:

To a willing repair person:
A library friend of mine passed along this address in the hopes that you could help me.
A long time, extremely useful, cast iron frying pan fell on the floor and the handle broke off right at the pan.  Rather than throw it away, is there a possibility it could be repaired?
Please let me know, either at laurel522@gmail.com  or at 360-876-8907.
Thank you so much.
Hopefully,
Laurel Stone

January 11, 2015
3:34 pm
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Well, unfortunately, as far as I know cast iron can be welded by neither forge nor arc welding, and forging it at all might not be possible.

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January 11, 2015
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Although I know there are folks out there with WAY more experience than me that ought to be able to provide a more detailed or accurate answer (isn't the website administrator married to one?) I'm responding because I believe Mr Kirk's response is not entirely accurate.

It's my understanding that most cast iron repairs are done by brazing (not sure if that's a strong enough fix), but welding IS possible. 

I'm pretty sure I remember helping Terry Carson repair a cast iron stove a few years ago and what I remember being different from welding more ductile steels is the need for drilling holes on each side of any crack to prevent further splitting of the material, and paying close attention to preheating and post heating temps of the area around the repair with a torch to prevent stress fractures as the different materials cool at different rates. 

Doable, but not for a novice like me.

as always

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January 11, 2015
7:42 pm
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Not sure how well the brazing rods work, but there are arc welding electrodes available specifically for cast iron repair.  One of my daily-use cast iron pans is one my father repaired the handle on over twenty years ago.  He used the appropriate rod (Nickel 55 or similar) with his arc welder.  I remember he said he preheated the parts.  I'm pretty sure he didn't have to drill any holes as it was just the handle and a clean break.  The resulting weld looks like stainless steel, but it adds character in my humble opinion!  Unfortunately I'm not equipped to help Laurel and my dad lives in Idaho...

January 13, 2015
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Hey All:

Cast iron can be arc welded... Just have to use the proper rod...  Preheat and post-heat are essential... If you don't, the cast iron will crack...  Just ask at the welding store for what rod to use to weld cast iron, ask for the spec sheet, preheat, post-heat and get 'er done...

January 14, 2015
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Repair of the cast iron pan handle should be a simple repair for a knowledgeable welder if it is the handle only. If the fracture includes some of the edge or wall of the skillet then this will require a little more care and prep. My first choice of repair process would be TIG. YouTube has several videos. I have used TIG on cast iron numerous times and have been very pleased with the results.
2nd choice would be arc weld with nickel rod. If you have any thoughts about finishing the repair with a file, be sure your choice of cast iron filler material is machinable. Non-machinable cast iron filler metal will eat a file, drill or tap. For TIG or arc process you will “v” the edges of break to prepare for the weld. Using mild steel runoff tab at each edge of the repair will allow start and stopping the weld on a sacrificial piece of material. Grind away tabs and you have a nice crisp edge on your repair. Alignment of the handle could require clamping to heavy backer or purposely misalign handle and allowing repair weld to “pull” handle into alignment. When working with cast iron you do not have the option of heating it up and smacking it a couple times to adjust the alignment.
If the fracture has proceeded into edge or side wall of skillet look close to see if there are crack(s) traveling out from fracture. If there are, locate the end of crack and, as suggested by an earlier reply drill a small hole at end of crack(s). If the sidewall of the skillet is part of the repair, a preheat of the whole pan may be required. Cast iron does not respond well to intense heating of a localized spot when there are diameters, radius, thin edges and heavy cross sections such as corners involved. Prep and tack for alignment then preheat whole pan and weld (larger projects can require maintaining the pre-heat while welding), then protect and allow the object to slow cool. Once cool, finish the cleanup, etc. I didn’t talk about brazing process which has successfully repaired cast iron for ages because of the rapid heating of a localized area of the pan and I don’t know the skill level of the person attempting the repair.
Good luck,     Lyn Cane

January 14, 2015
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Thanks for that great information, Lyn.  I'm sure several of our members in the (360) area have the experience to do the repair, I just hope one of them is willing to help Laurel (that might be easier if we knew where she's located).  At some point if no one has replied to her we should probably refer her to the local welding shop.

January 15, 2015
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Thanks to those responding to Laurel's request. I found out that she is in Port Orchard.

January 22, 2015
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I welded my cast iron exhaust manifold on my Chevrolet 235 with a spray welder. After the welding I took a burr tool and smoothed a slight hump that was formed by the "bead". After that I needle peened it. Looks very much like the original material. It was my first attempt at using the spray welder. So I took it in and had it magnafluxed to look for cracks. None found, in fact the machine shop sent a guy out with an old Buick exhaust manifold to my house to get his welded. I would be more than glad to try my hand at the skillet, but I live in BC. If she can wait I'd do it. 

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