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the heavens opened up and the sun shone down, then THE WELDER
February 6, 2012
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OK maybe a bit dramatic. Went over to visit with an old friend I have not seen in a couple years. He is a timberframer, a real pro, I brought him a little chisel I had made up over the summer. He was cleaning his shop out from a big project and I grabbed a broom and helped out. Rooting around under his bench and he asks If I could use a welder I said HECK yeah, well here you go he said I could use it til he needs it back if ever. It's an old Sears Craftsman 30-230amp stick welder, looks like it can go up to 1/2".

I am ecstatic.

I have waited for years to get a welder.

This means I can build alot of projects I never could since I did not have my own welder.

February 6, 2012
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Good on you Sam. Karma, the good kind, can be wonderful. Keep us apprised of what you are doing with it (the welder). Have any pictures of the chisel?

Jeff

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February 6, 2012
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Oh i'll have some neat things coming soon once I get it all setup and get the accoutrements to use it, I have had projects filling sketchbooks for a long time of projects I would do if I could weld. There was a bad picture (no detail of it) in the fine woodworking article, but I don't have any sadly, I'll snap some next time I am there.

February 6, 2012
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congrads Sam every blacksmith needs a welder. To many tools and things around the shop to make that need weldng. Why just today I welded up sum camper jacks for my neighbor. You will find that it is one of your most used tools.

February 6, 2012
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Welders are like hammers- you cant stop at one.
I have too many- I just sold a Miller a lot like your new welder, as it hadnt gotten plugged in for years.
But I still have 2 Tig machines, 4 different wire feeders, a spot welder, and 2 that will do stick. (some overlap- I have several multipurpose machines)

February 6, 2012
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Steve, agreed. I have always had something higher on the list to get then a welder, but always regretted not getting one. I hope it earns a good bit of dough too!

Ries, I can see the addiction potential hehe, i would love a MIG/Tig unit and hope to use this stick one to buy one.

February 7, 2012
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Way to go, Sam! I've had a 230 Lincoln tombstone stick welder for over 30 years and I still use it more than the mig. The fan doesn't work any more and it still plugs away at it.

Looking forward to seeing your new projects!

Randy McDaniel
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February 7, 2012
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Sam....yes indeed

I've has a nice Miller 225 Mig machine for a WHILE, but lacked a co2 tank for it.
I KNOW what you mean about having those projects pile up for lack of a welder!
7018 and 7024 will likely become good friends of yours 🙂

February 8, 2012
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Congrats, Sam. I need a welder. Bad. [Image Can Not Be Found]

February 8, 2012
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I bought a new mig a couple of years ago and figured I would tailgate my old tombstone welder. I quickly learned not to. I needed to weld some stainless and bought a handful of rods for $30-$40 and did the job instead of having to buy a tank of different shielding gas and a very expensive spool of wire. I then had a small hardfacing job, same thing partial box of rods vs very expensive spool of wire.

You can weld some pretty heavy steel with that buzz box you just picked up. Much heavier than any mig that will cost you less than $1500 or so.

Stick can also be handy for reaching down inside pockets that you cannot reach with a mig gun.

February 8, 2012
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I am learning all about different types of rods and they're applications and AC/DC and stuff, it's really interesting.

John, I learned on MIG and always thought stick was rather crappy, but the more I learn about it and the more I hear from pro guys how good it is the more I want to learn and respect it.

February 9, 2012
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I make some good extra money welding aluminum angle iron for a sign maker in town as well as the odd Al or SS from other sources. and with a generator, I am able to cart into a back yard or inacessible place. A nice machine like you describe, grinder and portaband are the back bone of the small fab work in my shop.

February 11, 2012
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Almost everyone needs some welding. Keeps you in beer money at the least.

I like stick for structural (and the ease of switching filler rods) and everything else is pretty much tigged with a little oxy/acet thrown in there. Had a big job last year where I was running a million one inch beads in varying positions so picked up a nifty little suitcase unit but now it just sits there, I don't like the smoke.

February 27, 2012
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Ries;14361 wrote: Welders are like hammers- you cant stop at one.
I have too many- I just sold a Miller a lot like your new welder, as it hadnt gotten plugged in for years.
But I still have 2 Tig machines, 4 different wire feeders, a spot welder, and 2 that will do stick. (some overlap- I have several multipurpose machines)

Reis you are right...My son is studying/practicing welding and I decided to get him a little 230 amp Dayaton stick welder, and one thing led to another and I saw this big beautiful blob of stick-welding copper and steel called the Hobart T-500 and decided Nathan (read: Me!) needed to build a battle ship or two, so I muscled that one into our garage. Next was the discovery of MIG welders and hence the Hobart 185. I think I'm done now because I am on to the beauty and allure of anvils...

February 27, 2012
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The shop is rewired, 50 amps this guys is rated for!!! had to have a whole new breaker box put in. Now I have to get the accoutrements, shield, rod, gloves.

What is a good rod for all around welding of mild steel, that's not exactly ground clean. Looking for strong not so much pretty, but also easy to use.

February 27, 2012
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Sam,
here we use 6013 for general use, its much easier that 7018 if not as strong but is much more "forgiving" especially for "new welders" see if you can get them?
Ian

February 27, 2012
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Get some 6010 rod 1/8" it will handle rust, oil, scale and not have a brittle weld. If you want a cleaner weld for better steels then 7018 3/32" size. Those sizes allow you to not change machine setting when changing between rods, aprox 90 amps (nice when in a pipe rack far from machine etc). Lincoln 6010 rod is also called 5P. These are only if your machine can do a DC weld, cheap buzboxes are usually AC only. You should also make sure to but the plastic tubes to store the rods in, one for each type and size of rod since I dont think you will be keeping them in a rod oven.

February 27, 2012
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6013 is easy to use and nice for non-penetrating needs but you should learn to run 6011 too.6011 is the AC machine equivalent of 6010.It is a high penetrating rod. Pretty much the standard of the industry when I was welding pipe for the coast Guard.It does take practice to get the "row of dimes" look but worth the effort.

February 27, 2012
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6013 is a sheet metal rod, thin material only

February 27, 2012
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sam salvati;14377 wrote: I am learning all about different types of rods and they're applications and AC/DC and stuff, it's really interesting.

John, I learned on MIG and always thought stick was rather crappy, but the more I learn about it and the more I hear from pro guys how good it is the more I want to learn and respect it.

If you're going to weld machines the mig is ok for mild to mild in most cases but for fabbing Ph dies and such, ie; tool steel to mild or tool to tool the stick is king.....unless you have a tig

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