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March 1, 2011
My treeplanting buddy bought the place in the early 80s with his gf and another couple. "lets but this hillside land and all live together" didnt last long, but long enough to build a couple cabins, plant some fruit trees.
I'd been living in a camper, and treeplanting for a few years living in different places. He and his gf bought the property next to it that they had been caretaking when I moved into one of the cabins here in 92.
I'd been saving for land, and bought a lot in town in 95, was planning to build a shop on it, but really didnt want to move into town. By 98 I had tracked down the other owners, and paid them off, sold the town lot to pay off my friend, and owned it outright in 2000, no bank loans involved.
I got the roof you see put up over a slab in 01, and in 02 started the foundation for expanding one of the cabins into a livable pad.
Got into milling wood, one thing I can get around here is trees.
Still spending most of the year living out on jobs in a camper, and working on the place in the winters. In 06 I sided the shop, a salvaging bro donated 25 sliding door windows that give me lots of light in there. The aspect is perfect, in the summer the sun just hits the workbenches in the back, in the winter sunlight (when I get it) goes all the way to the front doors. This is my 5th winter with walls and doors for the shop.
I'm only a couple poles from the grid, but there was already a 2" waterline with 140 psi running a hydroelectric (well, a vw fan for a peltonwheel in a breadbox) so I skipped all that messy county paperwork and stayed off grid with a better hydroplant and a few solar panels.
My FS contracts have been getting pretty thin the last few years, and I've found myself doing more of my pole construction, spending more time at home. My alternative energy covers the house well, and I can run some tools in the shop, like skilsaws, drills and grinders. My welder is a Miller genset on the truck,have had some equipment repair work with it.
When the lathe, and bandsaw showed up, I had to figure something else out, so I put a hydraulic pump on a diesel I use for backup charging, and plumbed the shop with hydraulic. It is a pain to fire a diesel to run the power hammer, but I dont run it 8 hours a day, with a little planning the heavy work can be knocked out pretty quick on it, do detail on the anvil. The lathe may not be gnats ass for accuracy, but it will take a good cut.
25 years of trucking around the slopes of Oregon and Washington has taken a toll on the bod, and this is the first break between contracts in a long time. I've been lucky and had contracts in the Siskiyous for the last 7, but it looks like I'll either have to start bidding abroad again, or see if I can make enough around here.
I dont have any illusions of making a living in my first year of hammering iron, but along with a carport or two I think I enjoy the activity enough to keep pounding when I can.
Dont need much here, what some of you make a month to keep your shops running, I could live a year on, I'd bet.
I'm thinking some ornamental ironwork would go well with the log construction, people who like the style usually want as much "rustic" look as they can get.
Here's a shot of the shack, and a few of the pole jobs I've done.
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November 8, 2010
6:12 pm
March 1, 2011
No,that was actually a yanmar tracked carrier that had a small dump bed on it. I added a blade, and made a mini-mini excavator out of it. Only 3' wide, it will pick about 1000 lbs, I use it quite a bit moving stuff around, trail building, some digging. Put a hydraulic wheel motor on a braden winch I picked up, you'd be suprised at the size logs I can skid with it if I brace it against a tree.
I know some equipment guys, I'll hire a cat or a hoe if I need any serious earthmoving done.
12:58 am
September 21, 2010
holy cheesemuffins.. thats a nice place !
i've alway liked all that post n beam kinda stuff... even worked abit in one fella's blacksmith shop that was all done in posts... a real dream
hah.. like your powerhammerpress... nice idea
Greg
5:18 am
December 19, 2010
I have always wanted a log cabin. I was just commenting to the wife the other day how i would love to live in a cabin in the mountains. I grew up in Park City Utah, and everytime i go back i love looking at all the log cabin palaces in deer valley. Nice work. I like that you are off the grid, smart thinking to have everything paid for off the grid, i am jealous. Seems to me that is true freedom, low overhead, and when you wanna do what you want no bills telling you not to.
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March 1, 2011
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10:38 pm
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September 25, 2010
That's a really nice setup Poleframer.
My wife and I are planning on putting a log cabin on some property in the next few years. If you are still around, I'll check with you first for help building it. 😀
Regards,
Tim
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Mark Twain
1:23 am
March 1, 2011
Sure thing Tim. I'd be happy to look at yer plans, I wished I'd looked at the blueprints closer when I was starting on that log house! It came together well, and I really enjoyed the ironwork that went into it too. All the joint in the framing (my stuff, not the stacked walls) were these big 8"x 3/8" plate splines that were slotted into the log ends, and bolted thru with 5/8" bolts with bridge washers countersunk in the logs. This construction will make it thru "the big one"
3:38 am
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September 25, 2010
poleframer;11589 wrote: Sure thing Tim. I'd be happy to look at yer plans, I wished I'd looked at the blueprints closer when I was starting on that log house! It came together well, and I really enjoyed the ironwork that went into it too. All the joint in the framing (my stuff, not the stacked walls) were these big 8"x 3/8" plate splines that were slotted into the log ends, and bolted thru with 5/8" bolts with bridge washers countersunk in the logs. This construction will make it thru "the big one"
That looks great. 😀
Yeah, we thought about Cob for a home, but the time factor was too long. A log cabin, kept small should do us really well and I can do a lot of the work myself too. 🙂
Regards,
Tim
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Mark Twain
5:28 pm
March 1, 2011
Is there national forest near you? I got into pole construction partly due to the availability of small diameter wood, thats usually cut into slash and burned. I've been getting the poles up to 8" for 3 cents a foot, 30 bucks for a thousand feet on a permit. It's a job skinning them, but can really cut the cost of a structure, and add to it's uniqueness.
Talk to whoever does the firewood permits, they probably can get you into a pole stand.
There's an engineer I've worked with down here that can do the specs for using poles in structural work, he engineered the saw shop front, and spec'd all the logs for the log house.
Are you planning a stacked log type place? My grandpa built his two story log house in montana back in 39, had 3 sides milled, saddled the ends and it came out good. At this place I'm working, they did the swedish cope, cutting a concave in the underside of each log to match the curve of the log below it. Beautiful, but a heck of a lot of work.
5:34 pm
NWBA Member
September 25, 2010
poleframer;11598 wrote: Is there national forest near you? I got into pole construction partly due to the availability of small diameter wood, thats usually cut into slash and burned. I've been getting the poles up to 8" for 3 cents a foot, 30 bucks for a thousand feet on a permit. It's a job skinning them, but can really cut the cost of a structure, and add to it's uniqueness.
Talk to whoever does the firewood permits, they probably can get you into a pole stand.
There's an engineer I've worked with down here that can do the specs for using poles in structural work, he engineered the saw shop front, and spec'd all the logs for the log house.
Are you planning a stacked log type place? My grandpa built his two story log house in montana back in 39, had 3 sides milled, saddled the ends and it came out good. At this place I'm working, they did the swedish cope, cutting a concave in the underside of each log to match the curve of the log below it. Beautiful, but a heck of a lot of work.
That's great advise and I'll remember when it comes time. Right now, I'm living on Bainbridge Island, WA but we want to buy property with our best friends near Portland somewhere, maybe out near Hwy 30.
As far as the cabin design, I haven't gotten as far as construction details. Mostly, I just want a 30'x40' rectangle with three bedrooms, a kitchen/bath and great-room. It's all still way up in the air, but we also want to build a shop to share with room for woodworking and blacksmithing and I have been thinking Post and Beam with Cob walls, but again, lots of time to figure all that out. 😀
Regards,
Tim
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Mark Twain
8:22 pm
June 9, 2010
I've been scheming some plans based on this thread as well. The shop looks great. We just moved to a semi arid climate and I would like to combine pole framing with strawbale infill.
Looks like you drill the plates after the fit-up? Is it a simple plunge cut with the chain-saw?
Your photo's and tip's are appreciated.
Jamie
3:09 am
March 1, 2011
Yea, at first I'd pre-drilled the splines on a drill press, but locating the holes after the plates were fitted in (yea, plunge cutting into the endgrain is fun) is too much of a PITA, so I bore through the whole thing with a hole hog, and the holes are true. Fighting a hole hog through 14 inches of wood with 3/8" of steel in the middle is a joy. I have about 600 bolts in the place I'm working on now.
My blacksmithing partner has a timber framed straw bale home, and I've worked on a couple others. Maybe I can get some pics for ya.
Man, you can keep that place warm with not much more than a candle.
I've been doing polework for 20 years or so, and would really like to play the steel work out into it, they go together so well.
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