11:55 pm
May 18, 2010
Bruce Macmillan;8228 wrote: Phil,
Grinding aside, they paid you to have that much fun!
I had a couple of pix leftover from the ''1500 steam hammer'' post, the hammer can be seen to the right of the green machine. The green mojo was intended to do closed die forging (bolt heads etc) and the grey I'd say repedative bending/forging, not me in the pic.
Pix taken at what's left of General Iron Works, Denver....
The wheel I threw to show the scale of some of the work that was done there........bm
Yeh I got paid not a lot ($82.00 per week, rent for 1 room in a house cost me $45.00 a week so I did'nt have a lot to live on)
So the bulldozer and the upsetter are still "installed" or so it looks, just the building is missing? Sad "Change and decay in all around I see".
3:05 am
January 18, 2011
Yeah Phil, It was a fantastic shop, the buildings were torn down around the equipment, what's left of it. It was the biggest ironworks in the US between the Mississippi river and the west coast. I got to tour it in the mid 80's, the tour guide was walking us through a corridor and pointed to his right and said; and that's the blacksmith shop as he kept walking and I said WHOA! Not so fast pardner. The blacksmith shop wasn't on line as was the rest of the ironworks, but it was still an awesome shop. Google: General Iron Works, If you do you won't see the 5500#arch hammer but I saw it on the tour.........All gone....bm
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2:08 am
May 13, 2010
There is some neat bulldozer tooling in these videos. The tooling for 180 degree bending is kind of neat how it bends in two stages so the end of the bend doesn't pop out.
There are also some good tooling pictures here http://www.loar.es/en/bendhor_machines/flywheel_control_30.asp#
3:00 pm
January 18, 2011
Well, a sculptor friend of mine made me an offer that I couldn't refuse on my old bulldoze bender so I'm building another with some features that will improve the machine. The most important of which is to be able to bend a 90 deg angle with the widest two pins, which should be no problem since I've increased the cylinder stroke from 6'' to 8''.Also I'm reducing the distance between the two closest pins from 3''+ to 2 3/4'' for working smaller pieces. I'm still using a 4'' cyl with a 110v 2500 psi self contained power unit, power was never an issue with the old one.
The channel iron is 12''x3''x36. the sides will be 36''x1/2''........more to come..........
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4:05 pm
May 13, 2010
Bruce have a look at the Euromac video. The one advantage of having your bending pins that are far apart mounted to the ram is that you can bend a circular piece or a 180 with a smaller diameter than the width of your cylinder.
The bulldozer bender I bought has been one of the most profitable tools I have bought for the shop. I have used it for a lot of cold bending, as well as hot bending, forging, upsetting, stamping, and hot shearing. I plan on using it for punching and maybe putting a rod shear into it. The cold bending jobs have usually been very profitable and the number stamping I regularly have to do on an ongoing job, now takes about half an hour each time as opposed to the hour and a half it used to take.
Having a limit switch to stop the ram in the same spot every time is really handy when you have to make a bunch of pieces the same. In my press it can be a pain at times for one off pieces because as soon as I take my foot off the pedal it returns so I can find it hard to sneak up on a stop point. But having a consistent stop can be really useful.
5:09 pm
January 18, 2011
That looks like quite the machine, but mine has no ''motherboard'' to fry unless you consider me a motherboard.... [Image Can Not Be Found] What I need is a simple, in the trenches, free form bending machine that is ready when I am to simply bend a chunk of metal when I don't want to fire up the torch or the forge. And that is alot when I'm doing things like the colt made of forged branches http://blacksmith.org/forums/t.....014-Navaro I'm sure analog limit switches could be fitted but I prefer the old 'meat computer' ....I reckon having the outboard pins on the ram has it's advantages but this is simpler to engineer and the pins are easy to change quickly.....It is what it is.... [Image Can Not Be Found]
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5:43 am
December 19, 2010
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with Bruce, i have been thinking about taking my press apart and making a bulldoze bender out of it. Its a 40 ton enerpac cylinder, right now its set up like a c-frame press, no good for bending unless i put wings on it. I wanna make something i can bolt down to my heavy table and have different pins and such, be able to bend longer pieces cold.
2:21 pm
January 18, 2011
40 tons is alota mustard, bet it will at least curve 2'' sq with a wide enough pin setting. Mine at 15t would probly do that hot.
The biggest advantage I have with my little rig is the ability to do quick bending in say 1 1/4''- so I don't have to spend time and fuel to heat or let the piece cool.....I never quench if I might re bend a hot bend, I've had it break....:bomb:
I reckon the colt sculpture would have taken close to twice as long without it.
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3:49 am
January 18, 2011
Got the bull pin carrier built and slotted the channel to fit the stroke.....Next will come the top and bottom pin plates that will be attached to the top of the channel and the top of the side plates......Shown in silver pencil is the approximate layout for pin holes on the top of the channel.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
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5:45 am
March 22, 2010
Dont you have anything better to do than build cool machines?
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
2:11 pm
January 18, 2011
Larry L;16557 wrote: Dont you have anything better to do than build cool machines?
Well YEAH, There's Facebook and IFI......:smoke:.....Actually I knew this day would come when I sold the old one because now I'm wanting to start another, larger horse sculpture and I'm kinda screwed without this thing. I justified it in my pea brain when the $$$ got offered and thought ''I'll build a better one'' and now I'm remembering just how much work one of these little bastards is not to mention around 1k in materials.....:p.....
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6:44 pm
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
12:18 am
January 18, 2011
I just love drilling 1 1/4'' holes in 7/8''x2 plates, it took 4 steps and seemed like forever. I would have had to farm that out only Grant told me how the reduce the speed on my toy drill press to a low of 60rpm and it holds it's own....thanks Grant
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
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4:19 am
NWBA Member
June 8, 2010
Hey Bruce:
What lube do you use for your drills???
5:06 am
January 18, 2011
Lynn Gledhill;16570 wrote: Hey Bruce:
What lube do you use for your drills???
Funny you should ask, The bottle on the drill press table is the stuff I use to wash my hands, that is,a strong solution of Ultra Gain dishwashing liquid, ''fragancia a lavanda'':cloud9: .....I was in the act of drilling and couldn't find my WD 40 to squirt on the drill so I grabbed my hand cleaner and it works quite well.....No smoke and it freshens the air when it steams.....
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
— Dr. Seuss
9:19 am
NWBA Member
July 19, 2011
3:13 pm
January 18, 2011
Gene Bland;16572 wrote: I use Dawn dishwashing liquid cut about 1/3 with water. Cools, lubrecates and cleans up real nice.
McBruce, How did you slow down your drill moter?:nerd:
I mostly use whatever flavor the Ol' Lady brings home for my recipe, I sure don't miss the smoke!
I can't find my original thread but I posted this one after I did the conversion.....Just for the record, I didn't drill a 2 3/8'' hole in 1'' plate....I used a hole saw for that.....
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
— Dr. Seuss
6:02 am
NWBA Member
June 8, 2010
Gene Bland;16572 wrote: I use Dawn dishwashing liquid cut about 1/3 with water. Cools, lubrecates and cleans up real nice.
McBruce, How did you slow down your drill moter?:nerd:
I have used "Simple Green" diluted like to degrease engines... Works good... I have also used water in a spray bottle.. I have always wondered, why would you use cutting oil??? It cools, but it lubricates... If you want to cut, how good of lubricant do you want???
9:19 pm
NWBA Member
July 19, 2011
The reason for oil is twofold.
It keeps your drill press and work from rusting
It has a much higher heat restance than water. Water turns to steam at about 200 degrees. Oil does not start to break down until about 400 degrees. It also lubrecates as it cuts reducing tool pressure and heat. Less tool pressure less heat. This means you can run higher rpm which also reduces tool pressure.
Water is a great heat sink but does not hold up under pressure and will cook off away from the cutting edge letting the tool overheat. Flooding the tool with water works to a certain extent but then you have a big mess and the rusting problem.
In deep holes oil lubrecates the chips allowing them to work their way up the flutes and out of the hole. The oil does not overheat and still works its way down to the cutting edge.
Since I don't drill any deep holes I can get away with the dish soap and water. But I still have to clean up and deal with the rust problem.:dance:
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