5:21 pm
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
Most babies are caused by accidents, right? This is one accident I didn't mind happening~
Rescued from a field in Quilcene, WA. and rumoured to have been a navy hammer. It's a 50lb Beaudry. Use looks very minimal, everything seems pretty tight.
My first mechanical so there's a learning curve. I'm thinking it may well outwork my 75lb kuhn
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6:38 pm
June 7, 2010
2:29 am
March 22, 2010
looks an awful lot like a hammer that was sitting in from on Bill Apples shop last time I saw it.... What gives?
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
3:21 am
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
That's right, Larry, It was Bill's. I apparently told him years ago "if you ever want to sell it..."
So now I'm the proud new owner. I greased it up today and am pretty impressed- the thing turns over like a dream.
Will be working on a motor set up here soon.
Yes, the factory dies are in a milk-crate. Suprisingly good shape so I don't think I need to go making a new pair just yet.
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4:19 am
September 24, 2010
It obviously had a low motor mounted with a long belt. My 100 lb came that way but I built a tower jackshaft above the frame so I could shorten the belt and move the idler above the flywheel, which tends to give a snappier action.
4:39 am
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
HWooldridge;16582 wrote: It obviously had a low motor mounted with a long belt. My 100 lb came that way but I built a tower jackshaft above the frame so I could shorten the belt and move the idler above the flywheel, which tends to give a snappier action.
Good point.
I'm thinking the same thing> put the motor in the rafters and keep the floorspace clear.
It seems this is the area I need to focus on, that is getting the proper belt configuration and idler setup.
A VFD was included in the sale. I figured I'd get it set up and dial in the speed til it hits the sweet spot. At 300 hits/min it should kick ~ss!
Got any pictures of your setup?
thx
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5:28 am
September 24, 2010
Steve H;16583 wrote: Good point.
I'm thinking the same thing> put the motor in the rafters and keep the floorspace clear.
It seems this is the area I need to focus on, that is getting the proper belt configuration and idler setup.
A VFD was included in the sale. I figured I'd get it set up and dial in the speed til it hits the sweet spot. At 300 hits/min it should kick ~ss!
Got any pictures of your setup?
thx
Here you go.
1:52 pm
June 7, 2010
K A Willey over on IforgeIron had a post on a #2 Beaudry with a 100lb ram he restored. On the 2nd page there are some photos of his overhead drive arrangment. http://www.iforgeiron.com/topi.....2-rebuilt/
3:21 pm
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
Will. K.;16587 wrote: K A Willey over on IforgeIron had a post on a #2 Beaudry with a 100lb ram he restored. On the 2nd page there are some photos of his overhead drive arrangment. http://www.iforgeiron.com/topi.....2-rebuilt/
Thanks guys, good info. Looks like I'll be reworking the countershaft arrangement to go overhead. Looking forward to it!~
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2:07 am
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
3:15 am
September 24, 2010
Steve,
They are very good hammers - I would rank Beaudry equal to Bradley and better than Fairbanks. They were one of the later mechanicals and the designers did a good job of correcting flaws found in other brands. The integral brake works quite well and the rollers in the ram allow working thick stock down to thin without major adjustments. They were definitely intended to work in an industrial environment over the long haul.
Good luck with yours - looks to be in good shape.
Hollis
5:12 pm
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
HWooldridge;16593 wrote: Steve,
They are very good hammers - I would rank Beaudry equal to Bradley and better than Fairbanks. They were one of the later mechanicals and the designers did a good job of correcting flaws found in other brands. The integral brake works quite well and the rollers in the ram allow working thick stock down to thin without major adjustments. They were definitely intended to work in an industrial environment over the long haul.
Good luck with yours - looks to be in good shape.
Hollis
I went and dug up about 1000 posts on Beaudrys over on IFI. Good info. One of Grant's posts said that a spring shop owner had his 300's running at 350 BPM WAY beyond factory spec but given the adjustability of the Beaudry was spot on for the work at hand. I'm looking forward to it. Versus my usual MO of tearing everything down first, I'm thinking I'll try to get it running first and then see what I need to get into. Shouldn't be nearly as daunting as my first 3B rebuild.
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9:56 pm
October 25, 2012
Steve, nice hammer looks to be in fair shape I have 3 Beaudrys they are the best hammer for the work I do I like them bettter than a Bradley or a Fairbanks (I have run all 3 for considrable time) that hammer ( #2) when you get it running you can get a very quick action out of it really comes in handy welding and drawing thin stock, when tuned right they have extreme control, will hit very hard or very light single blows, As I said for the work I do there is no better hammer for me.I think if you set that Hammer up as it was intended to be up over head you will be very happy with it. with that vfd hooked to a restat type controler on the foot treadle you wouldn't need an idler just keep your belt tight and set brake to release slightly before the controller kicks in then set your max speed.
Willey
1:12 am
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
K A Willey;16596 wrote: Steve, nice hammer looks to be in fair shape I have 3 Beaudrys they are the best hammer for the work I do I like them bettter than a Bradley or a Fairbanks (I have run all 3 for considrable time) that hammer ( #2) when you get it running you can get a very quick action out of it really comes in handy welding and drawing thin stock, when tuned right they have extreme control, will hit very hard or very light single blows, As I said for the work I do there is no better hammer for me.I think if you set that Hammer up as it was intended to be up over head you will be very happy with it. with that vfd hooked to a restat type controler on the foot treadle you wouldn't need an idler just keep your belt tight and set brake to release slightly before the controller kicks in then set your max speed.
Willey
Looking at alot of the motor driven hammers, weren't they driven from underneath? That no-idler speed control is crazy talk! I've never had a vfd but if it's true you can get all HP at all speeds, I'm in. The logic control on those things is scary. All I'm hoping for is to get it to go on/off, fast/slow but lookin over the literature you can program acceleration/deceleration, etc. Could get real interesting. What sort of rheostat pedal have you got in mind, A wah-wah?~ I'd be playing the hammer like Hendrix. cool-
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1:49 am
October 25, 2012
I would use a vfd twice the rated horsepower of the motor to get full power at rpms, PM me and I will give you the name of a fella that set one up that way. When that hammer was made it was not intended to be motor driven it was to be run on a line shaft and slip belt driven with and jockey pull idler to tension the belt and drive the hammer they were set overhead also as slip belts slip easer down hill than up hill most motor drivin hammers have mechanical clutches with tight belt .
2:21 am
NWBA Member
August 7, 2010
Good Morning,
First there is Seattle Jimmy (Hen....), then there is Seattle Steve!!!! Seattle Jimmy could play his strings behind his back, now Seattle Steve is playing his................... with his back turned!!!!!!!! Gotta Love it, Dreams and things to look forward to!!!!:showoff:LOL
Just kidding Steve, but it might be something to think about. Playin' the Beaudry, Doin' the Stomp, One Lick at a thyme!!! Stickin' yer tongue out, Wearin' double Ear Muffs, Hat's on Lock.......... to a Seattle Jimmy Tune!!!!!!! Keepin' the beat with the Beaudry.
I would think that if the Motor was up high, the space is free. Only limit on height is the ceiling. Fingers and things would have a harden time getting in the way. Just a thought.
John Little has had a Beaudry for quite a long while and absolutely Loves It!! Becky Little was virtually raised with a Beaudry. Only in Canada, Eh!! NOT!
Good Lookin' Scroll Tongs. I've used some with the reins a little further apart, gives more torque when using them.
ciao fur now,
Neil
As long as we are above our shoes, We know where we are.:happy:
2:53 am
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
K A Willey;16599 wrote: I would use a vfd twice the rated horsepower of the motor to get full power at rpms, PM me and I will give you the name of a fella that set one up that way. When that hammer was made it was not intended to be motor driven it was to be run on a line shaft and slip belt driven with and jockey pull idler to tension the belt and drive the hammer they were set overhead also as slip belts slip easer down hill than up hill most motor drivin hammers have mechanical clutches with tight belt .
Hey Neil, I was up at that clinic at the garage with Doug Newell in the 90's. You guys do alright up on the island there. I went and looked at a number 8 not long after that was a basket case a few hours north of you.
Willey, the vfd is rated for 5HP. The motor spec for the#2 hammer was a 3HP so I think it would go, don't you?
A motor with a good service factor would help. Of that variety I have about 4 to choose from
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3:53 am
October 25, 2012
Steve H;16603 wrote: Hey Neil, I was up at that clinic at the garage with Doug Newell in the 90's. You guys do alright up on the island there. I went and looked at a number 8 not long after that was a basket case a few hours north of you.
Willey, the vfd is rated for 5HP. The motor spec for the#2 hammer was a 3HP so I think it would go, don't you?
A motor with a good service factor would help. Of that variety I have about 4 to choose from
Steve my #2 is a rare case it is a 75lb hammer with the ram weighing over a 100lbs with the die my hammer was ordered that way, I tried a 3HP motor didn't have enough power, so I switched to a 5 to have full power to the heaver ram and jack shaft and in cold weather works very well now. for a 50 ram you should be alright.
4:43 am
September 24, 2010
I'm certainly not knocking the VFD ideas but a constant speed motor with the idler slip pulley is low-tech and works every time - no special tuning required...but you can play it anyway, Jimi Steve...
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