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November 21, 2012
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Ries;16606 wrote: that basket case wouldnt have any chance been on Hornby, would it? cause I saw one up there in August, hadnt been running in a good 30 years, or moved a bit in well over ten. Pretty thing, though, in an amazing open air shop.

Bill apple said it came out of Quilcene . Having never been there or Hornby, I can't tell you if they are one in the same. I think this little hammer is a bit better than a basket case~!

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November 21, 2012
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Good Morning,

Quilcene and Hornby Island are not even close. Denman and Hornby Islands are on the east side of Vancouver Island, between Qualicum and Courtenay. A ferry ride from Vancouver Island to Denman Island, a short drive and then another ferry ride from Denman to Hornby Island. I think I know the fellow that owns the shop and all the trinkets that haven't moved in a Kagillion years. He used to come down to Luxton for the VIBA meetings and then he had problems staying on the right (correct) side of the County Mountie's. Something about horses and water.

I'm sure we will be able to HEAR the 'Beaudry Shuffle' from the far off land of Jimi Steve, when the switch gets switched. Kann't Waaght!! :dance:

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November 21, 2012
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I wasnt talking about the one you got- I was refering to your comment about looking at a basket case a few hours north of Doug, on Vancouver Island.

I am quite aware of the difference in location between Quilicene and Hornby, having spent time in both.

and yes, we are talking about the same wild man- and he is not even in his shop at all these days, unfortunately its rusting in place, and kids are swiping small things to sell for ciggies. as I said, I was up there (Hornby) in August, and visited that shop. (with permission) The Beaudry probably wont live again- its becoming one solid piece of iron, if you know what I mean. It was rumored to have moved, not under power, some ten or fifteen years ago, but it sure doesnt look like the ram would go up and down today.

November 21, 2012
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Ries;16615 wrote: I wasnt talking about the one you got- I was refering to your comment about looking at a basket case a few hours north of Doug, on Vancouver Island.

I am quite aware of the difference in location between Quilicene and Hornby, having spent time in both.

and yes, we are talking about the same wild man- and he is not even in his shop at all these days, unfortunately its rusting in place, and kids are swiping small things to sell for ciggies. as I said, I was up there (Hornby) in August, and visited that shop. (with permission) The Beaudry probably wont live again- its becoming one solid piece of iron, if you know what I mean. It was rumored to have moved, not under power, some ten or fifteen years ago, but it sure doesnt look like the ram would go up and down today.

Got it, Ries. If it's the same hammer I'm thinking of- I did go up years ago, about an 8 hour drive from Seattle to look at a trashed #8. The guy was a logger on central vancouver island. Perhaps some other crazy guy from up North? what are the chances :mstickle:?! I was told there were maintenance barges for the logging operations. Filled with machinery they were, I suspect.

As always- paying the mortgage in the here and now will keep me off the vfd project for a minute. Stay tuned...

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November 22, 2012
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You got 480 power Steve? if so I got a 5HP VFD you can have for $75

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November 22, 2012
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Larry L;16621 wrote: You got 480 power Steve? if so I got a 5HP VFD you can have for $75

Seems a deal, Larry. Bill did give me a 5hp vfd that runs 240 3 phase from single phase 240. I wasn't aware they went the other way. Sounds like the ticket if they perform as advertised, If not I can always fall back on the idler arrangement

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November 22, 2012
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Steve,

There is a guy on Orcas that runs a beaudry through a VFD that is attached to a tig foot pedal. I've not run it but supposedly it runs great. Jorgen knows all about it and could probably put you in touch with the guy.

November 22, 2012
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Id like to have your VFD Steve.... How about if I give you the $75 and the 480 VFD for your 240V one?

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November 23, 2012
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Larry L;16628 wrote: Id like to have your VFD Steve.... How about if I give you the $75 and the 480 VFD for your 240V one?

Larry- I'm working on getting 480. Sadly, it's just on the other side of the wall from me but getting into it is proving to take an act of congress. I have 40 amps of 240 three phase right now. It's just enough for the 10 HP units but I'm trying to go to 15 or 20HP for the hydraulics. If I can get the 480, I'll let you have it.

Silas, yeah I heard of that guy, will definately look him up. Speaking of which, I haven't made a pilgrimmage up to Orcas for awhile. There is that 100lb Bradley compact for sale on Guemes island up there too

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March 26, 2013
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For you Beaudry owners out there: I'm looking for a close-up of the crank adjustment plate, or that's what I think it's called. The one on this hammer is going to get replaced with something that looks like it belongs there, just need to see a picture of what the original looks like,. My guess is that it's some kind of sliding nut? TIA

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March 26, 2013
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that one looks original to me, whats the issue...?

March 26, 2013
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Not original. The nut is T shaped to fit in the groove that you'll see with the bastard rig plate removed. I'd ask Kevin Willey over at ifi or FB for a pic.....

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March 26, 2013
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Bruce Macmillan;17627 wrote: Not original. The nut is T shaped to fit in the groove that you'll see with the bastard rig plate removed. I'd ask Kevin Willey over at ifi or FB for a pic.....

What I thought, Bruce, Thanks. A perfect job for the shaper. I would just like to know the overall dimensions of it vs. floundering hit and miss guestimates

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March 26, 2013
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Steve H;17628 wrote: What I thought, Bruce, Thanks. A perfect job for the shaper. I would just like to know the overall dimensions of it vs. floundering hit and miss guestimates

I think you got it...It should be about twice as long as it is wide, move freely and not interfere with the bronze bushing when tight.....I see Kevin is here already, maybe he'll chime in.

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March 27, 2013
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On all my Beaudry's they origanally had no nut the the long bolt that goes through the crank pin T is only there to adjust the stroke up and down when the crank pin is tight it will not come loose if there is tention on the bolt , it really doesn't even need to be in there when you have it adjusted but if it is tight it needs no nut at all as the T of the crank pin is the nut when the crank pin is tight ( the T of the crank pin is threaded). I use mine on a daily basis and they have never come loose yet. i can get you a few pics if you need them. you will find if you change the stroke on that hammer much a lock nut on that bolt is a major pain in the ass.

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K A Willey;17631 wrote: On all my Beaudry's they origanally had no nut the the long bolt that goes through the crank pin T is only there to adjust the stroke up and down when the crank pin is tight it will not come loose if there is tention on the bolt , it really doesn't even need to be in there when you have it adjusted but if it is tight it needs no nut at all as the T of the crank pin is the nut when the crank pin is tight ( the T of the crank pin is threaded). I use mine on a daily basis and they have never come loose yet. i can get you a few pics if you need them. you will find if you change the stroke on that hammer much a lock nut on that bolt is a major pain in the ass.

Willey

Got it, Thanks. Interesting. For the first time today I was breaking everything loose and seeing how it worked. Agreed, it looks like it may not even matter as long as the crank nut stays tight

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No, the project is not dead in the water, just percolating while I pay the bills. I went the straight VFD route, no idler, no brake and used with a tig welding foot control. The early results are most excellent although I have discovered the flat belt is no match for a direct drive setup like the vfd needs. I'm going to go with a multi-groove vbelt system as it seems no matter how much tension is on the motor, the leather flat belt pulley can't keep up with it, lots of spinning and tracking issues. looks like I will remake the motor mount to work better with a vbelt system. Most likely I'm going to find a bunch of belts the same length and build the motor mount around that. stay tuned!

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Wow, This thing hit's like no tomorrow. Stuff was falling off the walls left and right once it fired up. Per one of Grant's old emails about running a 300lbr at 350 BPM, I wasn't too worried about overdriving the hammer a bit. I'd forgotten I changed out the 3" flat belt pulley I had all the speed calcs done for so I found out I was in fact running the hammer at close to 400BPM with a new 4 groove pulley. Not only did it handle it, the hammer seemed to run best flat out! It shattered a 2x4 in seconds. I'd always been lead to believe air hammers were the end all but this guy has changed my mind. A quick youtube video to show it in action

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June 4, 2013
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Looks sweet! The only concern I have is using four B belts on a what looks like a 5 hp motor. B belts transfer 2.3 hp per belt so 2 belts should do it.....The problem the ''extra'' two belts could create is extra wear on the motor bearing(s). It takes twice as much force to tighten four belts, which say with a 10 hp motor with much larger bearings won't stress them out....:balanced:

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Good point, Bruce. I had asked the question repeatedly on side thrust on the motor bearings. Most responses were that they should be robust enough. The tension doesn't feel any worse, maybe less than that of the flat belt. It almost seems like you can loosen up a little since they seem to have more grab than the flat belt. Fortunately I have about three 5hp motors laying around so if this one burns up...

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