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Omniversal dies
June 12, 2012
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JNewman
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I got the idea and name for this die that I plan on making from Grant's anvil http://www.iforgeiro...l/page__st__220 . As well as the setup he or Bob designed for the KA 75 of a die inside a die.

I often have runs of 50-100 parts that I need tooling to make the parts efficiently sometimes they have repeats but it can be years between the repeats. Much of the tooling is reasonably simple although some are more complicated, often a flat die is part of the setup and many of the components will likely be common to different jobs.

Making fully machined dies for a run of parts that may or may not have repeats is far too expensive I currently use spring swages and tools that drop into a bolt on hardy hole but often I have to change heavy tools multiple times in the same heat. As well some of the tools need better top bottom registration than spring swages provide.

So I drew up a CAD model of the part and some of the dies I need for some future projects. I plan on getting a 12' bar of 3" square cutting it to 3' or 4' lengths and having the dovetail cut on all of them. I will then have bars I can cut die blanks off of and make tools from with minimal cost and lead time. I am waiting for quotes on machining and will probably be going ahead with it unless the quotes are astronomical. In which case I will have to machine them myself on weekends etc. but I will have to take my time doing it.

This sort of die would probably not be useful on hammers that take small dies, as the usable die area would likely be too small.

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June 12, 2012
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Omniversal die makes me think of a lower die like a engravers ball but captured more.

June 12, 2012
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Hi John,
Did you get your shaper yet?~

They only remember you when you SCREW UP~!!!

June 12, 2012
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I would love a shaper it was my favorite machine in high school machine shop. But I don't have room for one, I have an upsetter coming next week and I think it will be living on a skid greased and tarped up outside when not in use. A machine tool would not survive that sort of treatment. I do have an Excello milling machine which gets used all the time often just for drilling accurately. But unfortunately the shaper would only get used occasionally.

June 13, 2012
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JNewman;15585 wrote: I would love a shaper it was my favorite machine in high school machine shop. But I don't have room for one, I have an upsetter coming next week and I think it will be living on a skid greased and tarped up outside when not in use. A machine tool would not survive that sort of treatment. I do have an Excello milling machine which gets used all the time often just for drilling accurately. But unfortunately the shaper would only get used occasionally.

What's wrong with schools these days?? Even myself, 57 years old, according to the calender, wasn't offered machine shop in high school Took auto mechanics but there were a couple of screw-offs in the class who took all the instructors time!!! I transfered out without learning anything... Why don't schools offer the trades anymore???:stomp:

June 13, 2012
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Good Morning,

Something about High Schools being rated by how many students go to University. I find it peculiar how the thinking of the "Universities" transfers down to the Primary grades. I taught Automotive at Victoria High School and I always found it stunning when one of the Counselors would send a kid to the Automotive Class because they couldn't make it in another class. It is not possible to be a good Mechanic, without logic and the ability to think!!

I was at a Trade Conference at one of the local Colleges and one of the directors said that less than 5% of all High School students go to University, but that still controls the Empire!!

In North America it is impossible to be a "Master" of any trade, unlike in Europe. More Control!!

Neil

As long as we are above our shoes, We know where we are.:happy:

June 13, 2012
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Neil Gustafson;15597 wrote: It is not possible to be a good Mechanic, without logic and the ability to think!!

Absolutely true, Neil!

How can anybody be a decent smith or machinist without good math and geometry skills?

No matter where you go... there you are.

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