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Advice needed: forge chimneys and fire safety
August 2, 2015
6:36 pm
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DaveTheGreat
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I need to install a chimney to vent my forge, and I'm worried about fire issues. 

My shop is in an old garage, the standard 100-year-old Pacific NW construction. Old doug fir walls, newish plywood roof.

I am going with a 12" chimney and an oversized hood. The nearest wall is covered in drywall, so I'm not too worried about that. But the pipe will go up through the rafters and through the plywood-and-tarpaper roof.

How much do I need to worry about heat from the stovepipe? Is there anything I can do to make it safer? Any tips? 

August 4, 2015
2:13 pm
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There are commercial double pipe chimney setups that are used by builders to go through roofs, they allow only the center pipe to get hot, and air to pass through the space between pipes to control the heat and not allow your roof to Burn up.  There is also a set height, like over 2 feet or something that goes above the roof. Some use a gasket ring or Forge Cement (black stuff) to make a can-ring around those critical areas(where goes through hole in roof, if you are too detail oriented.  Spark arrester tops can be bought also if you wish.

If you get the local fire codes definition for chimneys, and look at these you can actually build your own and although a bit of work, it can be very safe. 

Check in at a woodstove place, look at builder sites on the web.  Should be able to research what you need.

 

Our satellite permanent shops at 2 fairs have a double walled setup like this, (and no real spark arrestor, so we have to cover the top during the off-season). basically a five gallon bucket on to top, TIED DOWN [wind] and that keeps out rain from blowing down the pipe (yes there is a little cap, but in the NW rain will find a way in.).

Also ours are built with very small circular hoods and counterweighted pulleys to raise the center pipe only up and down for smoke control and allows public to see the forge, maybe not a concern for your home shop, but even the large coal forge I weld in at Dad's big shop has a similar setup.  Works great!

Good luck

-DONK

August 7, 2015
10:56 pm
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  When I did my hood, I got a buy on triple wall pipe, which reduces your clearance to combustables. Double wall insulated pipe (metalbestos) does the same thing. 1st, whatever vent you buy, make sure it's listed for solid fuel, install it using the installation instructions, including the mounting accesories for your brand of pipe. If you start mixing various brands of product, you violate the listing for your vent pipe. If you burn your shop down, the manufacturer will tell you to pound sand, they won't pay. Your insurance company won't pay if you don't get a mechanical permit from your building codes department, something I'd suggest anyway, partly because I'm a building inspector, but partly because I don't want you to burn your shop down through ignorance (I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm saying you may be ignorant, ignorance is curable).

  The double wall pipe takes up less space, but is heavier than the triple  wall. I frankly only used the triple wall when I got near the roof of my shop. I did have to put some heat shielding up on some of the bracing for my trusses, to reduce the allowable clearance to single wall pipe. The mechanical code has a table that gives you ways to reduce minimum clearance to combustables. It typically only applies to single wall stove pipe though, if you use anything other than single wall  pipe, you go by the manufacturers' installation instructions.  I made my own hood for my forge. The mechanical code typically requires any "equipment" (your forge) to be listed and labeled, by an independant test lab. Oregon has an exception that allows antique stoves to be installed. My forge is factory made, but old enough to allow me to use the exception, I don't know if Washington has a similar exception.  You can also ask your building official for allowance, but be a bit prepared to have to make your case. If you explain up front what you're wanting to do, maybe have a photo of your forge, even some pics of what you make on it, you'll probably get issued a permit to install it. I'd call ahead first, and ask when's a good time to come in and discuss it. While the code is fairly black and white, if you catch the guy who's going to review what you want to do at a time when he can really listen and give it some thought, he'll probably do it. If you catch him when he's up to his armpits in alligators, he may just say "It's not listed, can't use it. Most guys though will actually probably show alot of interest in what you're proposing, and try to find a way for you to get your forge installed in a safe manner.

March 22, 2016
10:41 pm
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I think you must call chimney specialist services to fix your chimney safely. One of my friends had also faced the same issue, so he called professional chimney expert Nassau county to fix the problem.

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