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What is YOUR worst shop accident story?
March 4, 2011
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Grant;8205 wrote:

The guy actually recovered, but they said he was really goofy after that.

Bet he NEVER would have cut a full barrel, Too dangerous. Empty ones are ok though...:bomb:

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March 5, 2011
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This is the worst accident a friend of mine (rip)had.......Bobby had a 3hp 1725rpm pedestal grinder with a 15'' wire brush he liked to polish stuff on. One day he got the bright idea to clean some rusty 5/16'' chain......The brush snached the chain (spinning at 30 revs per second) from his hand, wrapped around the arbor and before he could back away, the tag end of the chain whipped his RT eye to a bloody pulp. He lost it. Another sanario could have been, if he had the chain rapped around his hands the chain would have pulled him into the machine and killed him outright. Bobby never worked without a can of bud within easy reach......
Not long after that he lost his LT eye in a bar room bar room brawl, he didn't last long after that.
The only way I will polish chain that way is to wrap it around say a 1x6'' board, secure each end and proceed with caution. This is the accepted way from jewelers on up....bm

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March 5, 2011
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Yikes, That sounds like a bad day at the shop for sure, I have no doubt the wire wheel is one of the most dangerous things in the shop... The one I like to use is a 7.5HP Baldor that I have 14" wire wheels on... the thing is great for buffing parts but very, very unforgiving...

Yeah my worst that did not happen to me was a guy I used to work for at a recycling plant.. He was troubleshooting a lift on a rollback truck and somehow he got between the deck and the frame.... There was a guy in the cab of the truck and he didn't even know for several minutes that John was in trouble... happened so fast he never even made a sound... That was Johns last day before going to live with Jesus.... Several years before I girl got bailed in a paper compactor at that same plant... she had locked it out and gone in to clean a jam with another guy... the guy got called out to do something else and took the lockout key, he handed it to someone else who didnt know she was still in the machine.... Long story short she ended up in the middle of a one ton bail of paper... Sad story, mostly because if she would have just kept hold of that key like she should have she would still be alive..

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March 5, 2011
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Larry L;8279 wrote: Yikes, That sounds like a bad day at the shop for sure, I have no doubt the wire wheel is one of the most dangerous things in the shop... The one I like to use is a 7.5HP Baldor that I have 14" wire wheels on... the thing is great for buffing parts but very, very unforgiving...

Unforgiving? that brute could wind you up like a rag and scatter body parts till there was nothing left to forgive........no pain though:angel:

The trouble is that walking over to the wire wheel to polish chain, and other oddly shaped things, seems for many just a casual maneuver, Jewelers lose their fingers, we can lose our heads.
I always love when clients check out the shop and draw back in fear when I operate a power hammer, I laugh and say, this isn't the one I sweat so much, its those over there that really scare me........b

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March 5, 2011
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I always chuckle at comments like "You could lose a hand in that thing." I'm putting 2,000 degree steel in there, my hands are nowhere near the power hammer dies.

There are ways to lose bits to them, but putting your hand in it is not one of them.

March 5, 2011
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It's just the area of the bottom die that is dangerous, it's not like it's gonna jump out and get ya and the danger is so obvious. It's those things where the danger is not so obvious that get ya.

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transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~

March 5, 2011
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Just one more, and I think that's about it for me,I hope.I've had more than my fair share, but never done the same one twice. Except maybe grabbing black heat iron....
I was using a powerful angle grinder with a wire cup brush, on a rough surface. I was wearing loose overalls the brush caught and skipped into my overalls, I had a good grip on the thing and it wound up my overalls to the point that it stalled the grinder. If hadn't held it, it would have beat me senseless. It was an old black and decker with a cylinder switch that doesn't shut off when released. They don't make em' anymore..........b

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March 5, 2011
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Lewis;8292 wrote: I always chuckle at comments like "You could lose a hand in that thing." I'm putting 2,000 degree steel in there, my hands are nowhere near the power hammer dies.

There are ways to lose bits to them, but putting your hand in it is not one of them.

Another laughable misconception people have is that a 250# hammer will smash your hand allot worse than a 90#:rolleyes:

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March 5, 2011
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Yeah no kidding, flat is flat when it comes to a finger under a hammer

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March 5, 2011
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Bruce Macmillan;8297 wrote: Another laughable misconception people have is that a 250# hammer will smash your hand allot worse than a 90#:rolleyes:

The only thing is the 250lber WILL beat you up worse if your steel is not quite flat on the die or will throw a much bigger piece of steel harder at you

March 5, 2011
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Larry L;8279 wrote:
Yeah my worst that did not happen to me was a guy I used to work for at a recycling plant.. He was troubleshooting a lift on a rollback truck and somehow he got between the deck and the frame.... There was a guy in the cab of the truck and he didn't even know for several minutes that John was in trouble... happened so fast he never even made a sound... That was Johns last day before going to live with Jesus.... Several years before I girl got bailed in a paper compactor at that same plant... she had locked it out and gone in to clean a jam with another guy... the guy got called out to do something else and took the lockout key, he handed it to someone else who didnt know she was still in the machine.... Long story short she ended up in the middle of a one ton bail of paper... Sad story, mostly because if she would have just kept hold of that key like she should have she would still be alive..

That is why in a bigger shop everone should have there own lock. When I started my apprenticeship at a big foundry, first thing I was given was a lockout lock. I had to stamp my name and employee # on a tag attached. Cutting a lock by ANYONE was grounds for immediate dismisal. Everone had to sign a page about the Lockout procedures if you forgot a machine locked out and went home you had to come in to unlock it. There was a procedure if a lock had to be cut but it was a LAST resort and included getting the plant manager out of bed and in if it was night shift.

March 5, 2011
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No argument there JN,
Just so happens I've got a good one about the ''throw'' factor.
My boss was forging 1'' x 6'' rd silicon bronze pieces, he didn't like tongs so he welded the bz to a steel handle. I don't know if they still make si bz stick rod, but the stuff is trash.
He welds the two together with this shit, gets it hot, then pops it into the 100# LG.....
The weld breaks and shoots the bz like a watermelon seed squeezed between two fingers. He was alone and had no idea how long he was out, hit him right between the eyes. Doc said he was very lucky it didn't hit him a little higher where the skull is thinner......
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Bob was never without his can of Coors nearby while working.....

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March 7, 2011
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I have had my 1 1/2 craftsmen buffer grab stuff out of my hand and drill it into the wall. I refuse to use wire wheels on the buffer, they scare the shit out of me. Strange, they don't bother me much on the angle grinder.

March 7, 2011
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JNewman;8301 wrote: That is why in a bigger shop everone should have there own lock. When I started my apprenticeship at a big foundry, first thing I was given was a lockout lock. I had to stamp my name and employee # on a tag attached. Cutting a lock by ANYONE was grounds for immediate dismisal. Everone had to sign a page about the Lockout procedures if you forgot a machine locked out and went home you had to come in to unlock it. There was a procedure if a lock had to be cut but it was a LAST resort and included getting the plant manager out of bed and in if it was night shift.

Everyone in the malthouse I worked at was issued their own 6 locks. Only their key could open those 6 locks. Some of the processes had multiple lockout points, necessitating the multiple locks. Each lock was to be accompanied with a tag identifying the lock owner.

March 17, 2011
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We were taking pictures once in a darkened shop striking near nuclear steel with lots or flux. You know the pix showing the dramatic effects of the liquid steel being struck at the anvil........
My friend Doyle sauntered into the shop to watch the fun. He was wearing sneakers with no laces and when we struck the dripping mass a butt load of the molten sparklers went into each sneaker........ Talk about a whirling Dervish!:dance:
His feet were burned so bad(3rd degree),Doyle didn't wear shoes or sneakers that summer, only flip flops....And kept his distance.......bm

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March 17, 2011
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You never know what might get you... This last week my uncle Chuck chopped off one of his fingers, in his pickup door... He is a contractor and was trying to make a quick cover to protect some expensive materials in the back of his 2010 F250 Ford.... Thought he would secure the front by closing the doors on the tarp... somehow got his soft bit in there and it chopped it clean in two... They drilled three pin holes in the bone and stuck the end back on and sewed up the squishy part... Just goes to show you everything is out to get you...

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March 18, 2011
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When I worked for Monterey Ironworks we had a customer come in for some repairs on a dump truck. He attempted to fix it himself, but in his haste to do the job he did not properly secure the rear door. He had proped the door up and somehow it fell down on his head removing his scalp in the process. He came to the shop to let the professionals do the repair, he had sticthes all the way around his head.

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That reminds me of a great uncle of mine. He was lying on top of the drive shaft of a tandem axle truck, working on the suspension. The truck rolled slightly, caught his coveralls in the universal joint, and pulled his coveralls so tight that it constricted him to death.

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This was the worst near miss I've ever seen......... Abana conference 1980 something, in Whisconsin.......
I approached two guys preparing to ''blow the anvil'' They had a Wally Yater swage block for the bottom, and were merrily pouring black powder into the holes to get lots of umph, and set the anvil on top. I said in passing ''That doesn't look like such a good idea''and stood back 40yds or so........The anvil went up then I saw a big splash in the Fox river off about 150 yrds off........A corner of the swage block had blown off and had ripped through the air like a jagged cannon ball !
A bleacher full of our smiths were 50yds away watching a demo, and yours truly was close enough to get his head torn off, not to mention the idiots who did this. Out of the 360 degrees it could have gone, the chunk went into the river. I think maybe this has something to do with abana's policy on the sport.........:bomb:
The damaged swage block was sold at the conference auction for next to nothing, I should have bought it........

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March 27, 2011
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Good God, this is some horrible stuff!!!

I got burned in school when a big glob of steel rolled off of a piece of fishing equipment I was welding on and landed on the side of my jeans at the knee while I was squatting down. It set my jeans on fire before it settled into the side of my kneww, forming a nice little crater about the size of a quarter.

Smithing, I was forging a loop on the end of a big grilling fork. I was bending the loop around a drift that was standing in my hardy hole, and was bent over the work to reach it better. I was still bent over when I went to remove it. There was a burr on the end of the drift that caused me to pull a little harder. I was still bent over when it came loose and touched my face. I spent much of last summer with an interesting burn around my right nostril and on my cheek. That day, I learned how comforting rusty slack tub water can be in a pinch.

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