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6:22 pm
March 22, 2010
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Blacksmith - Established 1879; changed to Blacksmith 2c 1917; pay grade 1c established 1917. Blacksmith 1c and 2c changed to Metalsmith 1c and 2c 1936.
Blacksmith 3 - Established 1926; disestablished 1929.
This was gleaned from the following website.
6:29 pm
March 24, 2010
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Blacksmiths at work on the deck of a monitor, during the Civil War.[Image Can Not Be Found] http://www.history.navy.mil/ph.....h51954.jpg
Grip the cold end. Hit the hot end.
7:53 pm
March 24, 2010
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Gene,
Here's a shop picture from USS Prometheus (AR-3). Circ 1919-1920 [Image Can Not Be Found]
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7:57 pm
March 24, 2010
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It wasn't all hand work on the AR-3. THey had a steam hammer too.
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8:22 pm
March 18, 2010
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Well, before someone else notices, that's actually a high-speed hydraulic press. Now that would be cool to have!
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
9:16 pm
March 24, 2010
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"High-speed hydraulic press" Well, what do you know! I guess you do Grant! I never would have thought it! How did you know that and what can you tell us about them? Were they in comman usage? How did they compare to a steam hammer?
To get on topic for bladesmithing...Is it suitable for bladsmithing?
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10:17 pm
March 18, 2010
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The one shown uses steam or steam over oil for rapid stroking and return and a steam/hydraulic intensifier for the heavy squeezing. Probably compares favorably to a 1500lb steam hammer which would be impractical to install on a ship. The plant in the background is the steam/hydraulic system. "Bladesmithing"? I don't think so, heavy forging? Sure.
Those are really cool pictures Jeff, thanks!
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but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
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April 19, 2010
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Grant: Is that one of your production shackles in the background of photo #3057??
4:31 pm
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April 19, 2010
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Just noticed: Pretty stout lad at the tongs if he swung that chunk of steel over there himself!!
10:34 pm
March 18, 2010
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You get a feel for doing that. Ya drag it out of the forge/furnace and let it fall and hold on to the tongs so it swings like a pendulum, swing, take a few steps and swing it right up on the hammer.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
10:37 pm
March 26, 2010
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From various various posts all over the place I've somehow picked up the idea that the navy used to use smallish power hammers on ships, Nazels and such like. Is this correct? Where did the inertia block go or was the ship itself the inertia block? What about noise? hammering in room with a steel floor, steel walls, steel ceiling .... must have been interesting.
3:34 am
March 22, 2010
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david hyde;1767 wrote: From various various posts all over the place I've somehow picked up the idea that the navy used to use smallish power hammers on ships, Nazels and such like. Is this correct? Where did the inertia block go or was the ship itself the inertia block? What about noise? hammering in room with a steel floor, steel walls, steel ceiling .... must have been interesting.
My 3B came from the navy as well as the 300lb Chambersberg
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4:15 am
March 18, 2010
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Larry L;1777 wrote: My 3B came from the navy as well as the 300lb Chambersberg
That's not even close to being proof! Boeing has surplussed hammers too, that don't mean they used them in airplanes, does it? The Navy has repair yards all over, most with huge forge shops.
Now, that aside, I know that repair ships and many capitol ships had complete shops for wood work, machining, forging and fabricating. And lots of small hammers came out of ships.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
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September 7, 2010
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I noticed this thread the other day and thought I would share a book I found at a thrift store . This should be reprinted, maybe Lindsay has it
8:37 pm
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July 9, 2010
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Kenuto;17078 wrote: ...maybe Lindsay has it
Seems like a good idea. Sadly Lindsay has closed down for retirement. However, if you scan it maybe Amy would post it here in the electronic library? http://blacksmith.org/forums/content/240
Too cold to work in the shop today.
My son is the Blacksmith
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February 26, 2011
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J Wilson;17079 wrote: Seems like a good idea. Sadly Lindsay has closed down for retirement. However, if you scan it maybe Amy would post it here in the electronic library? http://blacksmith.org/forums/content/240
Too cold to work in the shop today.
I would be happy to post the file in the library.
Amy
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September 7, 2010
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Not meaning to be a buzz-kill.. but, at 366 pages, and not having the appropriate hardware . I don't have the patience, or desire to do one page at a time. If you would like me to send it to someone with the right technology, I would do that.Then maybe it could be published and sold by NWBA. what a pipe dream:rolleyes:
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July 18, 2010
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Kenuto;17090 wrote: Not meaning to be a buzz-kill.. but, at 366 pages, and not having the appropriate hardware . I don't have the patience, or desire to do one page at a time. If you would like me to send it to someone with the right technology, I would do that.Then maybe it could be published and sold by NWBA. what a pipe dream:rolleyes:
I know there are some other petty officers out there who recognize and understand this manual.I believe the manual is (was) intended to be used as a guide for a sailer who was studying to take the test for 2nd class petty officer .While the whole manual pertains to shipboard life ,only a portion of it gives information on Blacksmithing ,and mostly refers to shipboard repair - underway or at port.I recall a saying from my young life as a sailer,--something like--- There is the right way ,the wrong way ,and the Navy Way.Scan the contents and possibly the only pages referring to smithing would be few.
4:05 pm
January 18, 2011
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plenty of headroom aboard this ship....
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5:32 pm
January 18, 2011
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I saw this hammer in Depere WI at the abana conference in 1984....Yes, it's me....
I was told this hammer was used on a Navy ship and that was why it was so compact. It looks to be a 200 pounder at least.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
— Dr. Seuss
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