Sculpture thats not sculpture, nor really even art..

[ironstein]

That is awesome! The first video was truly relaxing to watch, made my day. What sort of hinges or bearings are in the first one? I would mess with that thing all the time if it was in my back yard. Very cool work Michael, thanks for posting.

[Danger]

Up and Away used front wheel drive units off a BMW? Her are a few shots of Fire Bird arrangement.

[Lynn Gledhill]

The art is in the bullshit.
Shame it should be in the piece.
or there should be a separate category for bullshit.
?

I have to agree with Jack on this one. I may not have any friends left save for one. Art is art, as the world around us perceives it. This made me recall my friend, Larry Davis, over in central Oregon. He was a farrier for 50 years. He related a story to me about a client that he had, that had Saddlebred horses, that he shod. The lady, one day was talking with him, and in subtle ways was trying to get him to say that shoeing Saddlebreds was some kind of specialty type of shoeing. Finally he responded and said," The horseshoeing is all pretty much the same, it's just the bullshit that's different". He got fired.
Art is art... Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... Many of us who call ourselves blacksmiths are also purists in the way that we do our work the way we want to and take pride in doing things that way.. The art is in what we do. I have seen pictures of the railings that Larry has made, and They are Art! Production art?? But we do what we have to do to make a living and if we do some things for the fun and creativity of it, man, that's good stuff!! I am a farrier, I make my living mostly trimming horses feet. I have a client who, knowing that I play with blacksmithing, asked me if I would like to make 3000 feet of railings for his balconies. Heck, I can make a lot more money under horses in the next two months than working on building his railings!! I love to create. I love to forge steel into what I think is Art. If I can convince the customer that it is art, it Must Be!! This has been a really fun thread to follow... lot's of really good comment. From Grant forging hardies with a hydraulic press to David Hyde forging beautiful gates adorned with vines and leaves... It's all art... It's all art.

[ironstein]

Well put. I just remembered what Brian Brazeal once told me, he was a farrier for quite while. He said " a horse will try to kick you, a mule WILL kick you"! Sorry a bit off topic.
I am in total agreement with you Lynn, its all art, i just seem to trip out on the guys that market themselves and make shit tons of cash. Jacks quote sums it up.
Danger, very innovative ideas there, up and away looks like it shouldn't work the way it does, it is a true piece of art in my opinion.

[Levi]

I like that really pissed off looking insect scorpien thing

[Bruce Macmillan]

[QUOTE=Lynn Gledhill;8372]........................... Heck, I can make a lot more money under horses in the next two months than working on building his railings!!


Lynn, If you can do 3,000 ft of rail in two months, I would at least consider it.......

[Ries]

I once did 550 feet of railing- it took 3 of us a year.
But it paid a lot better than horseshoeing does.

I guess it depends on the railing...