say mak hammer question

[Greg Obach]

are they still being sold ? does the ozark school still carry them or someone else
I've heard some good things about these hammers and have some questions.. are they as good as the anyang 88lbs

thanks
Greg

[JimB]

Hi Greg,

Robert Alexander of Scrub Oak Forge in De Soto, MO took over the Say-Mak sales after Mr. Clark passed away. I believe he is currently taking pre-orders towards a new shipment of hammers.

Nathan Neale of Seaside, Oregon also sells them. I believe he has a shipment arriving in February, but I don't know if they are already sold.

Both gentlemen should be able to answer any questions you have about the Say-Mak hammers.

James Johnson of Alvord, TX handles the Anyangs and would be the guy to talk to about their performance.

I really don't know which is the goodester of the two. If both camps would kindly send me a hammer and a phase converter I'd be more than happy to compare them

Do some research and test drive both if possible. The best hammer is the one you can afford and gets the job done

Good Luck!

Jim

[Greg Obach]

thank you Jim

I'll try to get into contact with both the say mak dealers and see what they say.. .. hopefully they'll be easy to approach.... i see that a couple people have these and have very nice things to say about them... they look like the Kuhn hammer but i don't know anyone that has one of those..

I've already emailed and talked with James Johnson and he answered all my questions ... the anyang is a solid hammer.... He was a very good person to talk with !!!

Greg

[sam salvati]

Greg, i have used both the small and larger models of the Say Mak, and of course you know I have my little Anyang, if the 88 is anything like the 33 that'll be a tough choice then because both would be extremely good hammers!

[JNewman]

Sandra Dunn down in Kitchenerhttp://www.twosmiths.ca/index.html bought the larger size of the Say-Mak. She was very happy with it last time I talked to her about it. You could call her and ask her about it. She would probably be happy to show you the hammer if you were to come down. Kevin Peffers had an Anyang in Burlington but he has since moved to PEI and then BC.

Alku plastics in Toronto is the Canadian distributor for the Sahinler Hammers but when they had one at Caniron in Hamilton it had the Turkish motor on it. The Turkish motor is 50 cycle and therefor runs too fast which causes issues when striking light blows. The electrical inspector also made us disconnect the hammer because it was not CSA approved. I know Tom Clark was putting a North American Motor on the Say Mak and I believe the US distributor of the Sahinler does the same.

[JimB]

They should be very helpful. The best time to reach Robert is around 9 A.M. CST. He's always on the move, but he checks his call log and returns them ASAP.

I never really compared the Say-Mak to the Kuhn, but now that you mention it...

It's kind of like how the Anyang hammers resemble Nazel hammers

Speaking of hammers. The last time (mid-Dec) I was at Mr. Alexander's shop he had a couple of other hammers for sale. One was a 50# 'Spare Tire' hammer and the other was a self-contained air hammer. I cannot remember what the brand was, but it looked like a Anyang, though I think he said it was manufactured in Turkey as well.

Might be something to look into.

[Larry L]

Buy the Say Mak and buy it from Nathen...

[Greg Obach]

thank guys
I'll make some calls and send some emails and see what comes of it ... hadn"t even thought of sahinler, at least the shipping would be cheaper for me..

to be honest ... i've wanted the 110lbs say mak for a longtime, just never tried one myself and was hoping to hear they are as good as the anyangs

thanks

[David Edgar]

I love my 110lb (50kg) saymak, absolutely no complaints. The dies are all interchangeable with Sahinler, Kuhn. Just need to find them cheaper as my nearest supplier is in Germany.

[Larry L]

Greg I really think the Say mak is a better choice than the Sahinler. Nothing wrong with the Sahinler but the Say Mak has more features for less dough... I have owned three Say Maks... two of the 110's and currently one of the 135 lb (60KG) It is a great machine and I would highly recommend them. My feeling is the Anyang hammers are a pretty good platform and I have heard of good ones out there but several I know of have been problem hammers. I wouldn't be opposed to owning one but I am a little more leery of them than the fabricated hammers just because I feel they are harder to repair if there is a issue (I shouldn't really say "harder" but rather more expensive) I think much of it comes down to what you like and what you intend to do. The cast iron hammers like an Anyang hit harder if you look at tup weight.. A 88lb Anyang will do close to the work of a 110lb Say Mak... But if you look at price to price VS pound to pound I think they are pretty comparable. the 135 lb machine has a much longer stroke and much deeper working depth than a Anyang.. The upper die does not go into the guides so you can easily attach tooling to both the upper and lower dies which is a huge thing in production work. I dont want to knock the Anyang though, they can be respectable machines and now with Mr Jamison for a distributor I think there is good support as well. Depending on the size of hammer your looking for too... the Say Mak are only available in 50KG, 60KG and 75KG in the states (currently there are no 75's but there are several on Nate's current shipment that will hit the shore soon)