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Propane forge refractory question
July 19, 2012
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Hey Ryan, I broke my venturi forge down here: http://blacksmith.org/forums/t.....cro-Forges

Also a picture of my bigger fan driven forge as well.

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November 2, 2012
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I've been reading about using castable refractory and was wondering how you fire it initially. I see that the manufacturer's recommendations are for a pretty long term initial heating with a gradual increase in temperature over time, and I don't have the equipment/time for the manufacturers recommendations. Am I looking at the wrong product, or are the manufacturers recommendations overkill? I like the idea of using a castable too

November 2, 2012
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Gary Whitman;16500 wrote: I've been reading about using castable refractory and was wondering how you fire it initially. I see that the manufacturer's recommendations are for a pretty long term initial heating with a gradual increase in temperature over time, and I don't have the equipment/time for the manufacturers recommendations. Am I looking at the wrong product, or are the manufacturers recommendations overkill? I like the idea of using a castable too

Ideally the mud needs a couple of days to set. If you fire it too early, it will crack badly if not spall as all the steam tries to get out. A method I heard years ago that works great is to plant a light bulb inside the forge for a few days to provide a gentle warming. In my experience, the longer you let them cure without firing the better

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November 2, 2012
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That's actually a really good idea, I've been sitting here trying to think of a bunch of complicated ways of doing something that a lightbulb could do! I saw that High Temp Inc. has the castable at a much better price than I was originally looking at too (on ebay, and I think their retail prices weren't far off that price minus the shipping), and they aren't too far away from me. I've bought stuff from them before and they were helpful and friendly people to do business with. Just don't use a google map to try to get there, lol

November 2, 2012
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I suggest casting the forge and let it set overnight, then put it in the oven at 500 degrees for about 3 hours.
If not use:
1. the light bulb
2. fan fire from a hand held torch for a few seconds several times a day for a few days
3, time.

When cured pint the inside with Plistix or Metrikote.

Check out my prices at http://www.WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith.com.

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November 2, 2012
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Thanks for those quick replies! Probably gonna avoid putting castable in the oven, just in case, not sure about having those types of chemicals in a food prep area. What they put in food these days is bad enough as it is!

Thats a beautiful anvil stump too Wayne!

November 2, 2012
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GARY, You haven't said where you are located. If you are in the north west, Seattle Pottery Supply and Clay Arts in Tacoma stock Refectory suitable for forge building. Wayne has what you need, but is a bit further away. A search of the NWBA forums will provide you with a lot of information regards forge and burner construction. Keep asking here too. From any four blacksmiths you'll likely get five or six answers. Most of them will work too!
I'm going back to the shop now.
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November 4, 2012
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Jeff has a point and if you need a lot (55#) of the Kast-0-Lite you may be better off getting it locally, however if you need just enough to build one forge, and if you then need Plistix or Metrikote (they come in 50# pales and you only need about 2#) and then you need 2 or 3 feet of Inswool (it comes in 25 foot rolls) I may save you money and no sales tax but you must add shipping.

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