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need help making a thimble
August 5, 2011
5:03 pm
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Greg Obach
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so far i'm striking out on figuring an easy way to forge a pommel cap for Persian sword .... it looks similar to a thimble
- heres a pic
http://www.oriental-arms.com/p.....hp?id=2626

i've tried raising it but ends up looking like a flared out salad bowl... then i tried to drift the sheet though a thick walled pipe.. but often that just ends up sheering the bottom out..

- i've read recently that in manufacturing that they have a die to hold down the skirt of the metal disc as they press it into a thimble..

there just has to be an easier way.. those dudes did it hundreds of years ago by hand and i'm totally get broke down by this
- guess thats the problem, as a knifemaker i worry about getting things straight all day long but to forge a round bowl is foreign to me

any helps or hints ... i'd really appreciate

thanks

Greg

ps.. i have a 50lbs powerhammer but no press

August 5, 2011
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Gene Chapman made a handy set of tools to make thimbles. He's turned out some very fine damascus thimbles with it. I believe it's in one of his books. Gene is here and may join in after his nap. 🙂 He's keeping late hours these days.
Jeff

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August 5, 2011
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The tooling made for making copper candle cups.
http://www.oakandiron.com/Copp.....ps_II.html

I made some damascus thimbles that were machined on a metal working lathe.

August 5, 2011
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Jeff, we are taking my truck to the conference. shouldn't need any hauling.

Everyone bring money and visit my book store in the tail gate area 🙂 :running::stomp::spin:

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August 6, 2011
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August 7, 2011
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One my local group had a blacksmith sampler contest-- make a variety of pieces starting with 4" of 1/2" square. One piece I made was a (giant) thimble. I upset the 1/2" square into a cube, then rounded it up into a short cylinder. I drove a punch most of the way through from one end, then used thicker blunt punches to drift it out until I could work over the end of the horn.

Of course that started a sewing theme, so then I had to make a pair of scissors, a spool of thread, and a giant safety pin as the ring.

August 7, 2011
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I would think you could sink them but I would start with heavier stock and work at it in stages. Start with a larger dishing swage and then use smaller and smaller swages. Once you get it down to a hemisphere you could possibly swage it between round swages over your punch used as a mandrel. This would be sort of like raising but you would be drawing the walls down as you swaged it.
Mikes method combined with spring swages might be the best way. Sink the punch into a piece of solid bar with the end in a ball swage, and then swage the bar around the punch/mandrel.

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