3:59 am
March 22, 2010
In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that plastic
bags weren’t good for the environment. The woman apologized to her
and explained, “We didn't have the green thing back in my day.”
That’s right, they didn't have the green thing in her day. Back then,
they returned their milk bottles, Coke bottles and beer bottles to
the store.
The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized
and refilled, using the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But
they didn't have the green thing back her day.
In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator
in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery
store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to
go two blocks. But she’s right. They didn’t have the green thing in her day.
Back then, they washed the baby’s diapers because they didn’t have the
throw-away kind. They dried clothes on a line, not in an energy
gobbling machine burning up 220 volts – wind and solar power really did dry
the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters,
not always brand-new clothing. But that old lady is right, they didn’t have
the green thing back in her day.
Back then, they had one TV, or radio, in the house – not a TV in every
room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a pizza dish, not a screen
the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, they blended and
stirred by hand because they didn’t have electric machines to do
everything for
you. When they packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, they used wadded
up newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.
Back then, they didn’t fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut
the lawn. They used a push mower that ran on human power. They exercised by
working so they didn’t need to go to a health club to run on treadmills
that operate on electricity. But she’s right, they didn’t have the green thing
back then.
They drank from a fountain when they were thirsty, instead of using a cup
or a plastic bottle every time they had a drink of water. They refilled
pens with ink, instead of buying a new pen, and they replaced the razor blades
in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade
got dull. But they didn’t have the green thing back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar and kids rode their bikes to school
or rode the school bus, instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi
service. They had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of
sockets to power a dozen appliances. And they didn’t need a computerized
gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in
space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.
But that old lady is right. They didn’t have the green thing back in her
day.
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
6:32 am
June 10, 2010
Larry this is great. I'm old enough to remember this. I hope you don't mind me coping this. We were just at our cabin on the week end. It is still freezing here and I haven't hooked up the pumps. so we take water with us, I realized as we left that we had used a total of 14 liters of water for 2 people and a dog.
1:56 pm
January 18, 2011
This is indeed food for thought....I never really gave any thought to how ''green''things were growing up in the 50's (Lead in the gas an wholesale toxic dumping aside) To mention a few.
The big one for me is, back then we produced our own iron an steel, made our own power hammers (for example) Bought and paid for them with our own money, then we produced more of our own goods.......Such as hand hammers.
Now what we got is, we ship the raw materials say 16,000 mi round trip to probably China....They make the goods in mills and factories that are under no environmental constraints whatsoever then the power hammers AND hand hammers are returned to us, to buy with less and less of own money.......It makes me green..........bm
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
— Dr. Seuss
2:00 pm
August 23, 2010
2:49 pm
June 10, 2010
Rob F;9558 wrote: Larry has described a model lifestyle for everyone to strive for, how many reading this do any or all of these things.
I think I should give my wife the prize she walks to work every day even in the coldest days in winter, 2 miles each way. I don't drive that much just to pick up materials, but my daughter flies to work in the north, so I think neutralizes anything we do.
2:51 pm
March 22, 2010
Hey I didn't pen this, I just found it on the internet... dont go giving me any credit...
I just thought it was good/interesting
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
3:23 pm
August 23, 2010
Larry L;9562 wrote: Hey I didn't pen this, I just found it on the internet... dont go giving me any credit...
I just thought it was good/interesting
Even if you did not write this, you brought it to the surface so we all could read it and bring some of what is "normal" into question. You have in the past written thing equally as eloquent though and with no credit given it is easy to think that you got back from the store and typed this in.
3:48 pm
May 13, 2010
This touches on one of the things that concerns me about todays society. So much of what we buy these days has such a short life due to terrible quality most of these things get landfilled. Even if they are recycled the recycling takes energy and resources. Passing down clothes becomes difficult when they are trashed in a few weeks. The whole dollar store, Walmart thing frustrates me. The first phone my wife and I had when we got married lasted over 15 years, since then I cannot remember the # of phones we have gone through. I would have no problem buying a more expensive phone that would last. I much prefer buying less stuff but high quality.
5:28 pm
NWBA Member
April 22, 2010
Bruce Macmillan;9557 wrote: The big one for me is, back then we produced our own iron an steel
The USA currently makes about 80% of "our own" iron and steel.
We have the capacity to make 100% of it, without even building any new mills- we are just too cheap to pay ourselves what we ask for our products, if you can wrap your head around that one.
There are a few steel products we dont make, and must import- mostly from Japan and Germany, things like very high quality special die steels for injection molding or similar exotics.
We actually send very little scrap to China- we re-use most steel scrap here, ourselves, over 2/3 of it, and of the amount we do export, China only gets around 1/4, the rest goes to Mexico, Canada, India, Korea, and other places.
We import very little steel from China as well- it varies, depending on the dollar/yuan ratio, but its been running between 5% and 8% for some years now.
As for hammers, you are right there- aside from Iron Kiss, Big Blu, Kick Ass, and a few other small air hammers, we dont make em here.
But that might have something to do with the fact that Chambersburg kinda priced themselves outta the market- Mike Bondi got a quote for a 150 lb hammer from Chambersburg, right before they went under, 20 years ago, and it was around $150,000. That would mean about a quarter million today.
The fact is, the worldwide market is small, US environmental regs are expensive, and the Chinese subsidize coal mining, buy iron ore in bulk from Australia, and subsidize foundries, so the Anyangs and Shenxais of the world can make hammers for a fraction of what it would cost to make em in the USA.
That is a decision their government has made- and it is the opposite of the kinds of decisions our government has made.
As for "green"- I know a lot of old ladies who are just plain happy to be able to be lazy- we buy cheese from a local dairy, and the lady there was trying to tell my wife how cheap it is to buy cheese from Costco- this, while my wife is forking over 20 bucks a pound to this lady for local, high quality small producer product- and the very woman who makes it is bragging how SHE buys at Costco and Walmart to save money.
Doesnt she get it?
Dont people realize they are cutting off their noses to save a few bucks, and then they wonder where all the jobs went?
6:01 pm
January 18, 2011
Perhaps mine weren't the best examples, but others surely come close.......the one thing we do export more than any other country is weapons, 40% of the world market....:bomb:(I got my facts strait on that one).......Made in environmentally friendly factories.
Yeah, I remember wanting to buy some piston rings from Chambersburg, $90-$150ea,had em made custom for around $20. Other companies have for the most part have made new PH's affordable. It's easy to compete against a co. that wants 150k for a 150lb hammer, RIP Chambersburg......
Our pals at Wallmart.....On one hand you can't blame people for needing to save.......On the other what do you really get....:poop:..Heaven help us when the Chinese start importing cheese..............bm
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
— Dr. Seuss
2:40 pm
NWBA Member
November 8, 2010
3:25 pm
March 22, 2010
Hey Steve, in the 90's I worked at a steel service center and I can tell you that your right, most all small diameter pipe (under 6 5/8, or common drill casing) was and is import... however I think that the small diameter pipe market is a very very small section of US steel consumption... Something on the order of a few percent...
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
4:37 pm
NWBA Member
April 22, 2010
Heres the best figures I can find online-
http://hq-web03.ita.doc.gov/Li.....penelement
they indicate TOTAL steel imports from China at around 65,000 metric tons per month in 2010- that adds up to just under 8 million tons.
US consumption is around 100 million tons per year, so thats smack dab at 8%.
Now, maybe, the US Gov. has some sneaky loophole where pipe is not considered "steel" and its listed under plumbing or something, but I dont think so.
Remember- we live right across the street from China- we see more chinese stuff than most people. If you live in other parts of the country, your mix may be different.
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