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I miss you buddy.......
July 25, 2012
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Larry L
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First off I got to say that the motivation to pen this came from a conversation I had with Brent Bailey and his desire to do something very similar to post on his website…. I in no way am intending to rip off Brent’s idea and I ask him to forward me a copy of his Grant writings to post on the site once he has it put together…. But during the conversation I just felt like it was time to say a little something about our lost friend, something I had been meaning to do but had a hard time actually sitting down to type it out. There is a lot that can be said about Grant. He could be difficult to deal with, frustrating and goofy…. He had a strange sense of humor that some found hilarious and others offensive… But one thing that no one could argue is Grant was the real deal. At least for me he took a long time to warm up to… I tried for several years to get him help me with some mechanical projects that where over my head with no luck. He blew me off kind of like you would any kid asking silly questions but I kept at it. Finally one day I got him to come by and look at something I was working on and basically like the flick of a switch he opened up and started to share his knowledge.. I think a big part of this was he saw that I was trying, that I was doing and making mistakes… I was not just talking about these things to talk about them but I was spending the time to work through it. From that point on Grant taught me many lessons, many of which I didn’t want to learn but he thought I should…. Often I would call up and ask how he had done something in the past and he would reply “I don’t remember”… So I would try and fail and call back up and tell him what happened and he would start right in… Well what I did was this and this and you need to change that…. He knew all along what I need to do but he wanted me to try and learn something before he gave the answers… I think there is a lot of wisdom and respect in that.. Grant had my back…. Sometimes he would complain, bitch and whine about how much time something took he had quoted me $500 to build for me, some die or tool, and how it should have cost double that … And then not accept any money when it came time to settle up…. One time I really needed some help figuring out some industrial production forging process and he told me it would cost $500 for him to come show me… In the big picture having the “pro” come and help me out $500 was a small price to pay… But after we worked it out he more or less demanded that we spend the next 8 hours tearing down and repairing a hammer that had issues just for the fun of it…. Grant really was a funny guy… He was very giving in his own way while sometimes seeming otherwise…. He was very open with some knowledge and very protective of other bits… Grants heart I think was always in the right place no matter how stand offish he might act… I really miss the guy… We talked often and honestly I got to where I sometimes wouldn’t answer when he called, not because I didn’t want to talk to him but because I knew I would likely have to spend an hour before I could get off the phone and back to work.. Some might think its strange for guys who had 25 years between them to be friends but we shared a lot , laughed a lot and I can’t speak for Grant but I sure enjoyed being around him. I don’t know all of Grants history but I have very little problem saying that Grant may be the most influential American blacksmiths to lived in the last 100 years. Some would say that Francis Whitaker, Samuel Yellin or one of many other great smiths…. But let me ask you this… Who as a single man has had a direct hand in creating and furthering the craft… Grants tools have been used to create thousands and thousands of works of art, Grant will not have books written about his work, He doesn’t have fancy scrolled bits hanging in prestigious places in the way more recognized blacksmiths might… But Grant has had a bigger impact and influence than any of them ever will to the actual creation of forged iron. You would be hard pressed to enter any modern blacksmith shop anyplace in the country that does not have at least one of Grants tools in it…. And if you can find one I would bet that at least one of the tools that is there was influenced by one of Grants products… As far as I am concerned Grant perfected modern tongs…. He made them everything they should be and nothing they don’t need to be… he brought mass produced textures and swages to beginners and experts alike allowing people to both have more fun and make more money as a blacksmith… Grant took industrial scale forging process only profitable for big business and perfected them to make incidental things for a niche market in a little shop with equipment he built and modified. We will probably not see another Grant in our lifetime in the blacksmithing community…. His influence will and innovation will carry on long after his departure because every time you pick up a tool he made a piece of his soul is put into that work…. All I hope is now and again you stop and give a bit of respect and thanks for our friend. When you pick up that pair of tongs you thank Him for all he has done for the blacksmithing community… You see him for what he was… A good person who did good work that helped every last one of us in some way….

Whatever you are, be a good one.
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July 25, 2012
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Thanks for writing that Larry, I never met Grant in person but I have his tools. Many times he helped me when I posted a question, going so far as to send me a personal email a few time to go further in depth than he wanted to go on the forum. He was a great influence on me, I liked how he thought things through.

July 25, 2012
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Well said, thank you Larry.

My son is the Blacksmith

July 25, 2012
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yes i also will miss grant ...and your talking about him helps to remember what a smith we have lost...i never went to his new shop partly because i figured i would have had to have some tool that ide see at his shop...in some ways it really hasnt hit home yet .I know conferences will not be the same without him and his tables full of tools.thanks for the post Larry.....

July 25, 2012
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Hang in there Larry. Nice post.

July 26, 2012
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Wayne Coe
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Being in the south east I had not met Grant but had talked to him a time or two on the phone, watched his posts here and watched some of his You Tube videos.
I had gotten to where I thought that I knew him. I had decided that he was a crusty ole curmudgeon. I watched for his posts, learned some, and was entertained some.
Several weeks ago when visiting with Larry I commented that the number of threads started here was really down since Grant was gone. Not down just the number of his posts but his influence. He was an important catalyst for this forum and the blacksmithing community.

Wayne Coe
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July 26, 2012
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Larry, that was really nice.

I met Grant just one time, when I trekked down to his shop south of Tacoma to buy some of his amazing tools, a pair of tongs and a hardy for my new anvil.

I had read his posts here and at other Blacksmithing sites before, but it was a treat to talk to him. I got a tour of the shop (Including a demonstration of what an induction forge can do with Wrought Iron), slobbered on by his wonderful white boxer and I got to take the picture of his redneck gas tank repair on his riding lawn mower. 😉

You are right Larry, he was all the things you said and more and I would love to make the trek again.

Knowing how many people he helped makes me feel good that his knowledge will be passed down. Larry, if I ever contact you for help with a project, I'll keep in mind how Grant used to make you try for yourself first and do the same before I just ask. :smug: It is a sound principle.

There won't be another like Grant. That makes me sad, and maybe a little relieved. :(:furious::giggle:

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Tim

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July 26, 2012
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Since I live a lot farther away, I didnt get to see Grant anywhere near as often as Larry did, but I certainly considered him a friend, even if I only got to see him 2 or 3 times a year.

Whenever I hear people drag out the old "lost art" thing, or talk about how great the old timers used to be, I think of Grant as a great example of how they are wrong- Grant knew more about metals, metallurgy, industrial forging, and heat treating than pretty much anybody alive in 1900. He had the benefits of modern alloys, machines, and tooling, and years of hands on experience, and he was really unique.

And I would agree with Larry- his tongs are the best ever made. I have a rack of crappy garage sale tongs from 50 years ago, and then I have 3 or 4 pairs of Grant's tongs that I use daily. They are light, strong, and really well designed. I think he also pretty much revolutionized power hammer tooling- I have studied quite a bit, visited old industrial forges like Johnstown, and, the stuff that Grant made, and what it could do, is pretty unprecedented. There are no historical examples of spring swages like some of his more advanced designs, cause he pioneered how a lot of that stuff works.

I use his tools every time I forge, and think of him often.

July 27, 2012
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Thanks Larry for the post...

Grant so contributed to the website that I have pm'd some members (including yourself) about how can we keep this site alive?? Without him, many times, there has been nothing of interest on the website.. He was a good man and a brilliant metalworker!!! I would'nt even call him a blacksmith!! He was far more than a blacksmith... He was a designer, engineer, forger, business man... Brilliant he was... Glad that you, Larry had a friendship with him... I wish had... Please keep contributing to this forum... You have nearly taken his place here....

July 29, 2012
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I miss Grant on this forum, and yes, like most the others have said, you are pretty true and correct about Grant but I still found him a very likable person. I have met and talked with him on a few occasions at the swap meets, conferences and Darryl's classes. I could see how he wanted to make people try before he gave information out, or he wanted someone to just try out his "new" toy he had just made (mostly at Darryl's classes). Yes, he was quite a character and is already greatly missed. I am glad that I at least got to know him the little that I did, although, the more I got to know him, the more I had wished I had known him much longer ...

Thanks for the words Larry, it was good to remember Grant again. :happy:

I will always miss him posting here though, it was something, for some reason, always looked forward to.

Brad Roland :hot:

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