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1:44 pm
August 14, 2010
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Do you mean blowing the fuel and air in through a bed of ceramic chips?
Nope. No experience. Very curious though.
3:27 pm
March 22, 2010
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I have read a bit, I dont think there are any commercially available in the states, it would have to be imported from Europe? I would like to try one but have never even seen one in person...
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5:57 pm
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April 22, 2010
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They use em in trade schools in england.
Oddly enough, I think the ceramic chips are made in the USA, but nobody sells em here.
Angele, which is the number one German blacksmith supplier, sells the forges- and, like all german tools, they are not cheap.
Here is one that comes with 50 kilograms of ceramic chips- and it costs 7350 Euros.
Thats over ten grand.
Plus shipping and customs. Figure $13K to $15K, landed in Seattle.
http://www.angele-shop.com/cat.....-gasforges
The German smiths will routinely spend what we think of as crazy amounts of money.
A well tooled Hebo can easily run 50 grand, and most small german towns have a shop with a Hebo in it. And a cold saw, and a German made power hammer, and on and on. A couple hundred grand in tooling for a two man shop in a regional German town is not the least bit rare.
The 50KG Kuhn hammer now runs 13,000 Euros. About Eighteen Thousand dollars.
Angele online in english-
http://www.angele-shop.com/cat...../index.php
6:14 pm
January 18, 2011
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I'll take two.......Kinda makes the cost of induction units look kind and gentle!
It speaks volumes about the German smiths, they buy GERMAN, even if it hurts.........bm
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6:49 pm
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April 22, 2010
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I like the pine quench tank- for only 175 euros.
I see a market opportunity for Grant, though- they dont even have an equivalent to most of his tools.
8:51 pm
August 16, 2010
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The ceramic chip forges were used in schools over here in the UK but ar not that popular, many smiths that I knew at the time who had them were not that impressed with them, and most have gone back to the more 'traditional' gas, coal and coke forges, especially for forge welding and production work.
They took a fair time to come up to heat, and replacement parts were difficult and somewhat expensive to obtain I believe.
10:58 pm
August 30, 2010
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I have a Swan Mother and a Flamefast ceramic, I run them both on Propane,the ceramic chip takes about 10/ 15 minutes to get fully up to heat but once there will certainly burn steel if left too long. If it is run on Natural Gas I believe it is longer and not so hot.
If I could only have one, it would be the Swan, it uses a lot of gas but is more controlable.
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