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3B Nazel.... take it apart.. put it together.... take it apart.... put it togehter... take it apart
May 28, 2010
4:21 am
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Larry L
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Had some funny noise coming out of the big green meanie yesterday so I pulled it apart...

Turns out the exhaust that was built by a previous owner had some little bits break off which fell down inside the hammer.... rut ro.... Not good scoobie

Anway I also took the opportunity to re shim the guides... they are working good now but I am wondering if under heavy operation they might be too tight...

Anyway I must have put the ram in and out of this thing 10 times today... Got to where I could have it all broke down and then back together to test in less than a 1/2 hour..

Burned up a whole day that I should have been forging though...

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Nice to have a big magnet when test fitting the cushion plug

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I was hoping to show how much bigger the hole is in the Nazel than the 2CH Chambersburg (why are both my hammers in pieces?) but it really doesn't reflect because of perspective...

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May 28, 2010
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Guess you need to buy a Massey :smug:

May 28, 2010
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Id love to buy a Massey..... Not only have I never seen a Massey for sale on this side of the country, Ive just flat never seen a Massey.... They sound like sweet machines though

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June 9, 2010
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Larry L...

Your words above..... "Nice to have a big magnet when test fitting the cushion plug"

Questions...

1. Did you replace the cushion plug on your 3B?

2. How did you "test fit" the cushion plug?

3. Once the cushion plug has been replaced, is there any issue that has to be considered on subsequent (after it has successfully run) take_aparts and re-assemblies?..... or once it fits, it fits... and the alignment on subsequent re-assembly is automatic...

Inquiring minds want to know...

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June 9, 2010
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Hi Dave...
First off it was nice to meet you out in Tennessee... Its always interesting to put a face with a name..

So my hammer does not have a conventional cushion plug... Mine has a bronze bushing in the cylinder head that is tapered and then a straight steel pin that protrudes up into the center of the tup... It does the same thing as the tapered bronze plug once did, just a little more resistant to wear..

so by Test fit..... if the cylinder head is upside down on the floor, you should be able to slide the tup down over up (again, upside down) and when the cushion engages it should show down as it starts to restrict the air and make the seal.... And yes once its together and fit it should be good unless you wear out the cushion plug..

The reason I had to mess with it was because it was damaged by bits falling into the top of the hammer from the exhaust stack

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June 9, 2010
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Larry, it was very good chatting we had in Memphis. Just wanted to say hello.

June 10, 2010
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John Larson;980 wrote: Larry, it was very good chatting we had in Memphis. Just wanted to say hello.

The feeling is mutual John, I cant wait till Grant gets his hammer so I can play with it a bit!

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June 10, 2010
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[Image Can Not Be Found] Thanks Larry L... For helping me see how to test the air cushion before I put the rest of the hammer together.

I milled a piece of 3/4 inch plate (short die... to slide into the ram dovetail) and tapped it for a ring to hang my ram. Then cleaned and oiled the parts before I slipped the ram over the ram cylinder head. The air cushion works perfectly. I wasn't sure if there would be any alignment issues (or requirements) when I put them in the frame. I should have thought about the ram cylinder head registering (centers) perfectly when it is installed.

I'll need to remember to put screens over the openings on my hammer so the squirrels and birds and other critters can't store stuff inside. This hammer will be under a canopy outside with hip height walls (during winter, there will be walls to keep out snow).

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