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Grant;3099 wrote: Hard for Brian to even relate to this sort of thing. Is it blacksmithing? Not really, but it's forging. Brian can show you how to forge things with a minimum of tools, a fire, a hammer and an anvil. We're poles apart in how we do things. He can show you things you can do, I can show you cool stuff I can do.

My "creative reward" is in designing tooling for production and in understanding how metal flows. Unlike the heavy forge industry, we're both constrained by limited power to do what we want. We both work, as much as we can, within what the metal wants to do rather than using total brute force to bend it to our will.

I kinda have a love affair with machinery.

If your hardie forging is not blacksmithing Grant where is the line? If you have stoppers and taper tools does it cease to be blacksmithing? or is it power hammers or presses that are the line? Or do you need a coal oil lamp and bellows?

I admire guys like you Brian who can make the things you do Quickly with minimal tooling, and also make a living at it. While I enjoy forging intricate highly detailed work like this.

I also enjoy banging out scrapers, hooks and tongs, and I find I can make a living at it which "I" cannot do doing ornamental work.

Grant, what is the white tube inside the induction coil? Function? The coil seems to be held in a steel block and hoses behind direct the water flow. Are there electrical connections to the coil holding block? KW of the induction heater? Thanks.

Thanks.

Grant, if I use a wand with my 15 kw machine, do the water carrying hoses need to be augmented with electricity carrying wires? Also, on my 15 kw machine does the grounding terminal have to be used if the power cable has the ground wire? Does it have to be grounded to something other than the power cored's ground?

I think that the making of those hardys is a pretty cool operation you obviously have it down to a nearly no failure system

obviously the quality of the tool is good and that is the main thing the speed in which you can make it is where you keep the price affordable or anage to make a buck if you know what I mean.

the world is geared toward speed how fast can you do it? and then double it every ten years

true blacksmiths are resisting against the methodology of the whole world seemingly.
working with your hands your head and your eyes is not easy, its hard I have spent a couple thousand hours trying to learn what I can at the anvil and I feel like I am just begining to learn.

one part that is amazing is how much work can be done in one heat if you know what you want to do and how to do it,

the other aspect is it could take 5 heats to do the samething if you dont
you have to be effective to make it work someone who takes 5 times as long is not going to be able to charge 5 times as much for his work as the guy who knows what he is doing

in a way it is similar to having the machines to do the work for but instead you have skill, or if your smart maybe you can come up with a better process to do the same job in less time.

honestly though we are only headed toward more automated stuff but if you have few iddleclass people who is going to buy it?

the real truth is that people care about the finished product
most dont care where its made or how its made

but some do

brianbrazeal;3091 wrote: Nice Grant! Now you just need a robot.

He is the robot