4:33 am
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April 19, 2010
Just posted this on IForge This one hundred year old press "says" 30 tons?
Gene: Could I use this slow press to make the kind of dish we made at your hands on Fly Press class?It is kind of interesting with top lever to allow arbor press type of action and side arm to add extra oomph..
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4:49 am
March 18, 2010
Hey Eric, go ahead and post bigger or more detailed pictures. The system here will re-size as needed automatically. Interesting machine. Pretty fancy just for pressing bearings. Come back and show us how you're using it too as you get used to it.
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5:28 am
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April 19, 2010
6:11 am
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April 19, 2010
Try again:
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10:26 pm
March 22, 2010
http://www.oakandiron.com/Gall.....1%2007.pdf
Here is a PDF of the hands on project, October 2007 Columbia river gorge conference.
Speed is the key with the flypress. It strikes fast enough on hot steel so the steel dosen't cool off as with a hand operated hydraulic press. I'd try some small decorative tooling, experiment with it to discover the capabilties of the press. With 30 tons you should be able to do some dishing and squish small stock.
[pdf1]http://www.oakandiron.com/Gallery_II/Buckle%20pdf%20cs2%20%20%20%20%205%2021%2007.pdf[/pdf1]
11:04 pm
March 22, 2010
Here is some of the decorative tooling used on the fly press. My P6 press has a 1" hole in the ram In the fore ground is a holder , one of the first tools I made for the press. did some checking on the internet and someone recomended making a holder, the large diameter of it would distribute forging forces on a broad area of the ram. I didn't use it much. The holder on the right has a 1" piece to fit in the ram and a 1 1/2" piece with a 1" hole in it for holding tooling. I like to use 1" diameter used whitney punches for tooling, they are hardened and can be ground in a variety of shapes.
5:13 am
NWBA Member
April 19, 2010
Thanks Gene! Here is what I have so far: The ram is 2" diameter with a nice groove around it about 2 inches up.
I found some thick walled pipe at local steel yard that slips over the end of it(ram). Also scored a bunch of 3/8" thick discs that exactly fit over the end of pipe. With me so far? I was thinking of cutting a number of sections of the pipe long enough to let me tap in a set screw to fit groove. Weld discs on ends of pipe sections and weld tools on to discs? If I knew where to score some of the used Whitney punches I guess I could turn one of the disc ends onto a tool holder as you describe. Sound reasonable or is my lack of machinery knowledge sending me astray?? Thanks, Eric
7:40 am
March 22, 2010
Sounds good, you learn as you go.
One of my favorite scrounged/yardsale steel is automobile lug wrench for hot stamps or touchmarks. I think it's 1050/1070 steel in the way it sparks. forge, shape, file, grind the business end, sand and smooth to shape, it's usually about .560" in diameter.
Easy to build a holder for these to fit.
With tool holders I use allen headed set screws, the screw or threaded section may get bunged up after a while, just re tap and use a different screw. I like to use hardened allen head screws.
I sized most of my old hand held stamps of various lengths to the same length for use in the fly press tool holders so not to have change ram heights.
As in leather working, a limited number of leather stamps yields almost unlimited design possibilties. I used to do some leatherwork when in the Navy, that was a thousand years ago.
11:25 am
NWBA Member
April 19, 2010
Thanks Gene: I'll grab bull and get started. Funny-I have buckets of lug wrenches! I use them too for EVERYTHING in shop:Punches,chisels,knives. One of my favorites is squaring up the wrench end to fit hardy hole and making a quick and dirty spring fuller. Thanks again for your ideas and pictures !!! We just moved to new house so I'm in process of "honey do" stuff. New chicken house etc...but shop is coming along.......
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