4:15 am
September 21, 2010
are they still being sold ? does the ozark school still carry them or someone else
I've heard some good things about these hammers and have some questions.. are they as good as the anyang 88lbs
thanks
Greg
11:37 am
November 8, 2010
Hi Greg,
Robert Alexander of Scrub Oak Forge in De Soto, MO took over the Say-Mak sales after Mr. Clark passed away. I believe he is currently taking pre-orders towards a new shipment of hammers.
Nathan Neale of Seaside, Oregon also sells them. I believe he has a shipment arriving in February, but I don't know if they are already sold.
Both gentlemen should be able to answer any questions you have about the Say-Mak hammers.
James Johnson of Alvord, TX handles the Anyangs and would be the guy to talk to about their performance.
I really don't know which is the goodester of the two. If both camps would kindly send me a hammer and a phase converter I'd be more than happy to compare them 😉
Do some research and test drive both if possible. The best hammer is the one you can afford and gets the job done 🙂
Good Luck!
Jim
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2:07 pm
September 21, 2010
thank you Jim
I'll try to get into contact with both the say mak dealers and see what they say.. .. hopefully they'll be easy to approach.... i see that a couple people have these and have very nice things to say about them... they look like the Kuhn hammer but i don't know anyone that has one of those..
I've already emailed and talked with James Johnson and he answered all my questions ... the anyang is a solid hammer.... He was a very good person to talk with !!!
Greg
4:26 pm
May 13, 2010
Sandra Dunn down in Kitchenerhttp://www.twosmiths.ca/index.html bought the larger size of the Say-Mak. She was very happy with it last time I talked to her about it. You could call her and ask her about it. She would probably be happy to show you the hammer if you were to come down. Kevin Peffers had an Anyang in Burlington but he has since moved to PEI and then BC.
Alku plastics in Toronto is the Canadian distributor for the Sahinler Hammers but when they had one at Caniron in Hamilton it had the Turkish motor on it. The Turkish motor is 50 cycle and therefor runs too fast which causes issues when striking light blows. The electrical inspector also made us disconnect the hammer because it was not CSA approved. I know Tom Clark was putting a North American Motor on the Say Mak and I believe the US distributor of the Sahinler does the same.
4:29 pm
November 8, 2010
They should be very helpful. The best time to reach Robert is around 9 A.M. CST. He's always on the move, but he checks his call log and returns them ASAP.
I never really compared the Say-Mak to the Kuhn, but now that you mention it... 🙂
It's kind of like how the Anyang hammers resemble Nazel hammers 😀
Speaking of hammers. The last time (mid-Dec) I was at Mr. Alexander's shop he had a couple of other hammers for sale. One was a 50# 'Spare Tire' hammer and the other was a self-contained air hammer. I cannot remember what the brand was, but it looked like a Anyang, though I think he said it was manufactured in Turkey as well.
Might be something to look into.
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5:59 pm
March 22, 2010
3:16 am
September 21, 2010
thank guys
I'll make some calls and send some emails and see what comes of it ... hadn"t even thought of sahinler, at least the shipping would be cheaper for me..
to be honest ... i've wanted the 110lbs say mak for a longtime, just never tried one myself and was hoping to hear they are as good as the anyangs
thanks
10:40 am
August 30, 2010
4:12 pm
March 22, 2010
Greg I really think the Say mak is a better choice than the Sahinler. Nothing wrong with the Sahinler but the Say Mak has more features for less dough... I have owned three Say Maks... two of the 110's and currently one of the 135 lb (60KG) It is a great machine and I would highly recommend them. My feeling is the Anyang hammers are a pretty good platform and I have heard of good ones out there but several I know of have been problem hammers. I wouldn't be opposed to owning one but I am a little more leery of them than the fabricated hammers just because I feel they are harder to repair if there is a issue (I shouldn't really say "harder" but rather more expensive) I think much of it comes down to what you like and what you intend to do. The cast iron hammers like an Anyang hit harder if you look at tup weight.. A 88lb Anyang will do close to the work of a 110lb Say Mak... But if you look at price to price VS pound to pound I think they are pretty comparable. the 135 lb machine has a much longer stroke and much deeper working depth than a Anyang.. The upper die does not go into the guides so you can easily attach tooling to both the upper and lower dies which is a huge thing in production work. I dont want to knock the Anyang though, they can be respectable machines and now with Mr Jamison for a distributor I think there is good support as well. Depending on the size of hammer your looking for too... the Say Mak are only available in 50KG, 60KG and 75KG in the states (currently there are no 75's but there are several on Nate's current shipment that will hit the shore soon)
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
8:27 pm
September 21, 2010
the ability to use tooling is handy for me.. I've already got a 50lbs beaudry and its cramped using tooling with a 50lbs mechanical.
since i'm in the process of moving into a rental shop... i can't cut up the floor for a special foundation... so i figure a 100lbs air hammer might be the limit (which is fine for what i do at the moment ) .... ... i'd feel better with a fabricated frame aswell...even though i've never heard of a problem with the anyang frames
I did email Nathan but so far no answer yet... ....
4:42 pm
NWBA Member
August 7, 2010
Good Morning,
There is no need to cut up the floor. I have a 4'x8'x8" concrete base plus a 18"x42"-18" high block that my 50kg Kuhn sits on. When I poured the bottom block, I put some rock anchor threaded rod (Deweydag) to hold the top block to it (I put in some plastic pipe in the top block for the threaded rod to go through). In the bottom block I put two horizontal pieces of plastic pipe so I could jack the block up and put short axle stubs and wheels to move it around the shop. In the top block I put in the anchor bolts to hold the hammer. There is a sheet of 3/4" high density rubber mat between the top and bottom block and some conveyor belting under the bottom of the anvil. I put plastic sheet on the floor for the bottom of the forms. I have moved the hammer around the shop a few times and the hammer base has not marred the concrete surface of the shop floor. I took the hammer out to CanIRON II in Calgary in 1999 and it was set up on a manicured lawn of the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology. It did not leave a depression in the lawn, Uri Hoffi and Bill Fiorini were using it to it's fullest power.
This started out as a temporary foundation until I figured out where I was going to set it up permanently. I am not making a permanent foundation, This has lasted so far for 16 years, with no break in the concrete.
Another day without Grant, SHIT.
As long as we are above our shoes, We know where we are.:happy:
3:41 am
March 22, 2010
My 60KG hammer has has no foundation, as a matter of fact its not even bolted to the floor... The reason why that works though is because I build a 1750lb base out of a couple sheets of 1 1/2 plate and a anvil block thats 16" solid round... Makes the hammer much more efficient.... It sits on a chunk of 1/2" ply to keep it from moving around on a 4" slab.. works quite well
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
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