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General question about blade/steel color
February 9, 2020
1:05 pm
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Hey folks, probably another dumb question from me, but I've looked all over here and the web and can't find the answer.

I see a lot of knives listed for sale from local forges and most of them have a dark grey color, then shinier where the grind is.  How are they doing that?  Is it the steel?  I assumed it was an acid deal so I bought some muriatic acid and soaked a couple of mine for a while and although they bubbles and released the smoky bad gasses, the blades looked identical.  I understand that muriatic works for damascus so I kept it and will use it when I get there. 

I'm willing to bet that 99% of you know this answer and it's probably a no brainer, my dumb head just can't figure it out...

February 9, 2020
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Irish Homestead Forge said
I see a lot of knives listed for sale from local forges and most of them have a dark grey color, then shinier where the grind is.  How are they doing that?  Is it the steel?  I assumed it was an acid deal so I bought some muriatic acid and soaked a couple of mine for a while and although they bubbles and released the smoky bad gasses, the blades looked identical.  I understand that muriatic works for damascus so I kept it and will use it when I get there. 

Howdy, Irish Homestead.  Could you find a pic to describe what you are talking about?  

The first thing that came to mind is that the blades you are talking about are not completely ground all the way to the spine and the spine is left as forged, but hard to know without seeing a picture.

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February 11, 2020
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Hey BillyO,

a great example is what I see at Fallen Oak Forge.  http://www.fallenoakforge.com is their website.  I don't know anything about these guys, someone just suggested I look at their stuff so I follow them on FB.  I've seen this a lot though.  There's at least a couple other forges I follow and there's even some company that offers "man boxes" that apparently come with manly things and they show blades like this.  If I didn't grind out my knives all the way they'd look like a hammered mess. 

By the way, I checked out the bladesmith show and tell and you make some beautiful blades!  I'm very impressed!

February 11, 2020
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I can't speak for the exact process Fallen Oak Forge uses, but what BillyO wrote above is correct and would apply to what I saw on the link you provided. Grinding the blade while leaving the spine raw would surely create a contrasting effect of shiny steel vs oxidized steel...

February 11, 2020
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Hello again, Irish Homestead.  Thanks for the compliment.

Now that I see what you are talking about, you might want to do a bit of online searching for "brut de forge", as that's what a lot of folks call this style. 

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If I didn't grind out my knives all the way they'd look like a hammered mess.  

This style isn't easy to do well. 

If it's not against forum rules, here's an interesting discussion that came up late last year on Bladesmith's Forum.com:

https://www.bladesmithsforum.com/index.php?/topic/40024-is-brut-worth-the-trouble/page/2/

as always

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billyO

February 12, 2020
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Thanks BillyO,

That was a fun read and really informative.  I'm pretty good on the hammer but could never get the blade as smooth as I like so this just isn't for me.  The pics on that site you directed me to were cool, but sort of unfinished in my opinion.  The curved handle ones were kind of neat, but to me they look like a display rather than a usable knife.  Every knife I make starts out with a purpose, whether for myself or as a gift, I want that knife to be used. 

Thanks again

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