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6:42 am
March 18, 2010
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There are limited things you can do with a punch press instead of a hammer. Here I'm forging points on scroll tongs. The first cavity just makes it round again because my previous operation flattened it a little. The second step is a conical round swage with a lot of relief.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
6:48 am
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April 19, 2010
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Grant: Could you do that operation with dies in a 25#Little Giant?
7:04 am
March 18, 2010
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Sure! It's a little easier to make the dies for the press. But (and this is a big but) I have a distinct preference for designing my tooling for machines that I have rather than for machines I don't have.:mstickle:
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
8:57 am
March 26, 2010
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The use of the induction heater is noted. Yet another reason get get one ..... oops, I'm getting one, ones on the way as I type ....... YEE ****ING HAA.
It seems to heat up pretty damned quick. Is it the same as the one you sell?
Punch presses have always scared the living **** out of me. Tales of double cycling, work jamming them up mid stroke and the flywheels taking an impromptu flying lessons etc etc but that's quite a neat use.
Where's the guards ?
Does he (is that you?) use his hands to operate the footswitch on the heater in case he zones out and gets it mixed up with the press treadle ..... I guess it would be easy to do when doing a large batch
6:35 pm
March 18, 2010
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Actually, I can't remember ever putting the foot switch on the floor, your mileage (kilometerage) may vary. That's a 35ABD machine. For this operation the 15 is just about as fast.
Guard? We don' need no stinking guard!
As show, a punch press can be handy for some things. Plus I punch tongs (cold) and set the rivets (also cold). Never paid more than $100.00 for one either!
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
7:03 pm
March 26, 2010
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Grant;1830 wrote: Actually, I can't remember ever putting the foot switch on the floor, your mileage (kilometerage) may vary. That's a 35ABD machine. For this operation the 15 is just about as fast.
Begining to regret having ordered the 25A maybe I should have gone for the 25AB. But hey, if it's as useful as I think I coud always get a bigger one later .... be great to have 2 set up with 2 very different sized/shaped coils. All I really need is a bigger workshop and elec supply ....one day.
4:53 am
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April 19, 2010
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Being an old horseshoer and rancher I don't even know what most of the machines you guys talk about even look like. Grant: Do you ever allow "tours" of your shop or is it a secret place you want everybody to stay the hell out of? I understand either way.... thanks, Eric sprado
5:11 am
March 18, 2010
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Tour are 9:00 AM Monday, Wednesday and Saturday $5.00 for adults $10.00 for kids under 12. No, actually, if you're in the neighborhood, give a call. Guests are welcome.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
9:18 am
March 26, 2010
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Eric Sprado;1840 wrote: Being an old horseshoer and rancher I don't even know what most of the machines you guys talk about even look like. Grant: Do you ever allow "tours" of your shop or is it a secret place you want everybody to stay the hell out of? I understand either way.... thanks, Eric sprado
Eric, have a look on YouTube searching under "induction Forge"
Magic eh? All that heat going into just were it's needed, very quickly and with little waste heat going into the room, no fumes, no noisy gas burners and far cheaper than propane. Decided I just had to have one the day I first saw one. I'm finally getting one, should arrive in a few days. Grant's given some amazing asistance .... even though I'm not buying it from him and he does sell them!!!
I'll post plenty of stuff about them when I get time to experiment (and my hand on a video recorder) but here's a flavour
3:23 pm
April 21, 2010
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There is a downside to what ya said, unless you have a generator if yer power is out ya cant work 😀
2:44 am
Grant;1841 wrote: Tour are 9:00 AM Monday, Wednesday and Saturday $5.00 for adults $10.00 for kids under 12. No, actually, if you're in the neighborhood, give a call. Guests are welcome.
You were so quick and seamless with that response I thought you were serious!
4:42 am
March 18, 2010
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WmHorus;1848 wrote: There is a downside to what ya said, unless you have a generator if yer power is out ya cant work 😀
Well, even without an induction forge, it's pretty hard to get much done when the power goes off. I mean, how am I supposed to work without my music?
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
5:06 am
March 24, 2010
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Coffee pot doesn't work well without electricity. Glad I have a good thermos bottle for those out of power days!
Coffee! You can sleep when you are dead!
Grip the cold end. Hit the hot end.
5:13 am
March 22, 2010
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July 9, 2010
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Death before dishonor. NOTHING before coffee!
My son is the Blacksmith
1:50 am
August 14, 2010
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I had punch press in the old shop. I didn't move it and I do miss it occasionally. Mine was quite old and would continue to cycle if you stayed on the pedal, so work could be fed into the dies for several strokes. I made up a v-block for it and made a whole bunch of flat stock into grass. Paid off the $20 cost on the first job.
One of the very nice things about it was the very precise stroke. Once adjusted, it made exactly the same stroke every time. (Also it's weakness, no way to adjust on the fly or deal with being pushed to hard.)
Oh, I like coffee too. :wavespin:
3:02 am
April 21, 2010
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Jokes aside I always like watching Grants Videos, he really has tailored his shop and machines to his work. Maybe when I grow up Ill be that lucky....
2:01 pm
May 13, 2010
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What happens when you miscalculate and make a die that takes more power than the press will put out or put in a bar that is not hot enough? I have heard things about it being dangerous to stall a punch press, but there must be something built in for overloads?
1:52 am
August 11, 2010
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Grant, what's the tonnage on the press in your video? I just picked up a 152E (5 ton) Benchmaster and was wondering if it would be capable of this type of work?
2:04 am
March 18, 2010
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JNewman;2281 wrote: What happens when you miscalculate and make a die that takes more power than the press will put out or put in a bar that is not hot enough? I have heard things about it being dangerous to stall a punch press, but there must be something built in for overloads?
These old one have no overload protection, although I like to run the belts kinda loose and just use the inertia in the flywheel. They can sure jam, I'll tell ya. Modern ones have air brake and air clutches. With those you can usually stop, reverse the motor, get the flywheel spinning and clutch them in to un-jam, but not always. Really modern ones have a spring loaded break-away linkage.
Ian Wille;2864 wrote: Grant, what's the tonnage on the press in your video? I just picked up a 152E (5 ton) Benchmaster and was wondering if it would be capable of this type of work?
Yeah, that's about a five ton machine in the vid, maybe a little bigger.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
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