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5:18 am
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June 8, 2010
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I noticed that a number of you use a Hossfeld bender in your shops... I have opportunity to buy one, used with a number of dies. Just don't know how much use I'd have for it... Been thinking of making a number of trellises, the design requiring making bends on the edge of say 3/4 x 1/4... Difficult to do by hand. Is the Hossfeld useful for that? Help me out. Don't know how much to pay. The machine looks complete and comes with 15 to 20 dies. (Haven't inventoried them). I'd attach a photo, but the camera is up in the shop and it's too cold for me to want to go get it.:cold:
5:42 am
June 10, 2010
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Useless Junk is what they are 🙂 Actually that was to get Ries and a few people in the know to say something. They are a very versatile tool. I have only used one a few times but I thought they were slick. If you can get one for a fair price I would buy it. From the sounds of it you would use it.
12:11 pm
April 7, 2011
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People who use them love them. Most folks don't and don't take the time to learn to use them. There is a long learning curve to learn to use them effectively.
If you get it plan to use it a lot just to get your head around effectively using in and knowing when to use it.
If you do get profecient in using it you will probably find the type work you do will change.
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1:38 pm
January 18, 2011
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The little benders at HF will do 3/4 x 1/4 on edge and are rated for 1/2 sq , which can be upped if you do it hot......Fabricating a stouter bender using the same format isn't that difficult........If you can get the Hossfeld for a good price jump on it.
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4:59 pm
March 22, 2010
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My feeling is how useful it is depends a lot on what other tools you have in the shop and what you plan to do? If your doing architectural work or other semi production work they are fantastic tools.... I have one that I never really use but its only because my shop many other ways that are better for bending stuff. I still wouldn't part with the one I have..... If its reasonable Id buy it... If you decided its not worth the floor space it will be easy to resell
Whatever you are, be a good one.
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5:09 pm
May 13, 2010
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I would say to buy it if you can get it for a decent price. 20 dies are worth more than the bender. 1 pipe bending die cost me about $450 buying new. The bender is really useful for repeat bends, it can sometimes take a while to set the bender up to bend one part but if you need several bends the same it's where it really shines.
8:35 pm
June 9, 2010
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It's all about the tooling. See if you can upload pics of what's included in the package.
10:58 pm
March 18, 2010
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transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
9:02 pm
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March 18, 2011
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If it takes that much tooling to make that poor of an eye, I would agree its a useless tool 😉
9:48 pm
March 18, 2010
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This one looks to be a notch above the Harbor freight bender.
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
2:16 am
September 26, 2010
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I use my hossfeld all the time for whatever needs bent. I made one and then the one I used when I first started blacksmithing came up for sale with a bunch of dies and bought it. I made some signs out of 1/2"X3 1/2" material and bent it on the edge. This was before I had a friend with a plasma cutter. Made 2 signs with letters 2 ft tall. One was 21 ft long and the other was 18 ft. I love the tool.
2:29 am
March 18, 2010
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Yeah well, I was avoiding getting up on my soap box, but I just can't help myself. Back when I did whatever came in the door, there were many times that my Hossfeld bender made enough in a day to buy a new one. Sometimes it brought in enough in a day to buy a new one and still put money in my pocket! Combined with a forge, you can do things no one else in town can do!
“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but then there are others who, with the help of their art and their intelligence,
transform a yellow spot into the sun.” ~ Pablo Picasso ~
3:38 pm
June 9, 2010
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Here's my buddy Tim busting out a bunch of gentle radii in 1" material.
Lynn, to answer one of your original questions, edge bending is one areas the hossfeld shines. You do need the right dies and as stated, they aren't cheap. The set-up in the photo will get you 3/4 of the way there.
Gotta admit, that vid of the eye is poor. The stock is too wimpy.
4:12 pm
May 13, 2010
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I have to agree he did a pretty poor job of making that eye bolt in light stock. I use that same setup with a bigger bushing ( piece of pipe ) to make a bunch of power tool handles out of 5/16 and 3/8 round. It is not difficult to make them nice and round and centered. I do them on a #1 hossfeld just because that is the one I leave set up because it takes up less room. I bought the #1 because it came with a bunch of pipe dies and the angle iron dies including a set for the #2.
I have bent 1 1/2" round to a 4" inside radius on a #1 hot. I was overloading it but the #2 would have done it easily. A month ago I just made 10 hinges out of 2"x1/2" with no hammer marks far faster than I could have made it on the anvil.
6:37 pm
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June 8, 2010
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I bought the #1 Hossfeld. Here are some pic's of the dies I got with it. I tried last night to set up the angle iron flange out die. Thought I could do some edge bending with it, but don't think I had it set up correctly. Any help? :help: I don't know what the last two items are.
7:07 pm
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April 19, 2010
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I have a HF bender,but I don't know if it will be best solution to my job.
I need to bend some 3/16x3/4 the hard way in just about same radius as a 55 gal. drum.
My client builds earthen baking ovens with 55gal drum as core. The 3/16x3/4 is to stiffen up the edge of the door to the oven. Any ideas out there?This is actual picture of one of their stoves. You can find more neat stuff at: firespeaking.com">http://www.[B]firespeaking.com
8:26 pm
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June 8, 2010
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Just went to the Hossfeld site and learned how to set up the angle iron flange out die... Turns out I am missing a pin... Easy enough to make :smug:
12:12 am
February 25, 2011
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You might find these plans on making your own tooling interesting:
http://www.kinzers.com/don/Mac.....ls/bender/
Author of book titled, "Civil War Blacksmithing", available on Amazon.com
11:37 pm
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June 8, 2010
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David Einhorn;13348 wrote: You might find these plans on making your own tooling interesting:
http://www.kinzers.com/don/Mac.....ls/bender/
Thanks David. I have need for a couple of those tools.:playfull:
8:30 pm
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April 22, 2010
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Eric, did you ever figger out your flat bar the hard way bending?
I dont think the HF bender has the mass to do this, and I know they dont make the dies.
It would be pretty simple on a hossfeld.
3/16" by 3/4 is barely making it work.
But for a hossfeld you would need the edge bending dies. These dies actually pinch the flat bar down as its being bent, using a pair of opposing wedge shapes cast into the dies, so the harder you pull, the less likely it is to get wavy on you.
This would also be a pretty easy job to roll, on angle rolls.
Too bad Deadwood is so far away, you could come over and roll a few dozen of em in an hour on my curvatricci.
Lyn, did you download the hossfeld manual and bending book?
You need to. It shows all the setups, where to put the pins, and so on.
free.
http://www.hossfeldbender.com/.....ochure.pdf
to edge bend, you not only need the angle iron flange out dies, but you ALSO need the edge bending dieset, which sits inside the angle iron die.
Then, you may need to make spacers for the size and shape of material you are bending- I have home mades spacers in 1/8", 3/16", 1/4" and 3/8", in a couple of different lengths- these hold the die the right distance open, so your flat bar will lock in place and bend properly. They are just little pieces of flat bar with a hole drilled in them and the corners knocked off one end, easy to make, and of course hossfeld would sell them to you. But they are easy to make, and also almost always not included when buying the famous "bucket 'o' dies" that everyone seems to find.
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