Do you think America has a chance? | EVERYTHING ELSE OFF TOPIC | Forum

You are both correct. We as a nation have been fed food that has been geared to make us fat and Lazy ... we are the only nation in the world that lists "High Fructose Corn Syrup" as a main ingredient in almost everything we eat.

We are also close to the only nation who doesn't seem to want to buy products made by our own Country settling for buying stuff from companies that have put our american businesses ... out of business ... Walmart, Costco, etc etc ...

America has been nurtured as if they were Sheep to the slaughter ... and you can see it happening right before our very eyes! Our presidents and congress have taken our rights and freedom and sold them to other nations because of their greed. Look at the programs we watch ... Simpsons and Southpark and what the nation watches when they get home ... now that's educational ... Look at how we run our lives ... we've been trained to fail ... trained to accept mediocrity ... Trained to laugh at our idosyncracies instead of learning how to deal and move on with them ...

It is up the us Americans to change what is happening but I fear it is too late for most because like what Larry said ... we are too lazy and don't think we can do anything anymore. There are too many people who will "Buy from Walmart" because "They can't afford to buy american" and that is what's wrong with our nation ... when we change that attitude ... then we will change where this nation is going.

It is also up to us Americans to dictate to Congress that we need for them to be on the same page as society ... no more retiring after 5 years and getting full bennies for life ... you all get the same bennies all the other Americans do ... that way you will be more apt to actually do your jobs correctly ... pretty much BS that Congress gets that Perk ... and WHO passed that??? It's crazy stuff like this that's put our country in the place it is ...

*Gets off soapbox*

Shakes head ... ooo, don't get me started ... LMAO ....

Everyone everywhere took the land originally from someone. What I was saying is that I see large tracts of land that nobody is using, that is either used by the govt ( and ofc the govt sells the rights to log there but not live ) or owned by the state or huge logging consortium's. The only place I know of where you can do that still is parts of Alaska. I see hillsides all over that I would love to be able to plant a home on but cant. As I was saying the day of being able to do that is long gone.

Ries;2131 wrote:
We dont know how good we got it.

With you there Ries. I SO believe in that. My own "secret to contentment" is to try to be happy with what I've got. At heart adverts and s**t like that are all about making you insecure with what you've got, or your "lifestyle", and to try to convince you the only way to "get better" is to consume their product.

I do of course make a massive exception to this rule of mine when it comes to TOOLS. The only cure to this condition is more and bigger tools.

Lewis;2146 wrote:

I"Sorry, we can't sell you this tv for $99 because we're watching it."

We don't pay many of the environmental and social costs of our cheap luxury goods. We bemoan the cost of the gulf oil spill clean up but we've cheered the last thirty years of deregulation that kept energy prices low and partially led to that disaster.

I'll "do" just about any controversy on a forum but generally avoid politics. That said, I again SO agree with the above. Coming from my side of politics I kinda don't think in terms of "English" or "American" or "Pak ........ Me? we're all human beings and deserve the same chances in life. If theres one thing that get my back up its tribalism that says "we're special, you're not". This includes nationalism, religion, cliques, social groups etc etc etc. There's absolutely nothing in our DNA that makes us muslim, american, left or right wing etc etc. Every last man woman and child of us is a HUMAN first and foremost. Tribalism nearly always leads to war of one scale or another

WmHorus;2150 wrote: I know no Politics, but actually I dont think anyone has gotten nasty or said anything bad or tried insulting one another. Not even really a heated debate....just a discussion about the future of the country. LOL I think we got more heated over work related topics than this one 😀

Getting Heated is one of the most important work related topic here!:bounce:

How long can I avoid a good political debate, anyway?

My anal-ysis:

After WWII The U.S. ruled the world (economically). Our productive capacity was at it's peak and everyone else's was bombed out and in ruin. Through the 50's and 60's we were flying high. But that sort of imbalance couldn't last. Now we've been fighting it for 30 years, but it wasn't because we were so smart, we were kinda in the right place at the right time is all. We'll never be in that position again, no matter who is in charge. We need to get used to a new world order. At one time the north enjoyed such an advantage over the south, but things will always balance out. We need to understand that we are no more entitled than anyone else. I think Germany had that view at one time.

We raised a generation who think they are entitled while the rest of the world is fighting hard for their share. Yeah, we need to wake up. India has more honor students than we have students. In the 1500's, Spain was the richest country on earth. Shit happens!

All we can be certain of is change, and people hate change. Things will never be the same again! Actually, they never were.